[OSM-talk-be] historische kaarten als basis??

[Luc Van den Troost]

The 'kadaster' will give the answer when you need to know the
administrative statute of a certain piece of land. 

Every street also had a unique code in the 'rijksregister'. An adress is
composed of 3 numbers XXXX YYYY ZZZZ where XXXX = postcode, YYYY =
streetcode (number) and ZZZZ = housenumber. There may be an extra value
'extention' like 2nd floor, bus 8, A, bis, ... 

The rijksregister 'sells' the official streetnamelist. 

http://www.ibz.rrn.fgov.be/index.php?id=153&L=1
and see 'tarieven'

Gis-vlaanderen must also have the details for the flemish part of the
country. 
They have...

http://metadata.agiv.be/Details.aspx?fileIdentifier=c0da6e72-d974-4042-9310-1ff1230c11cc

'owner' of the rights is NGI. not free. 
Gebruiksrecht: Eigendom en auteursrechten berusten bij het Nationaal
Geografisch Instituut (NGI) 
Licentie: De bestanden mogen enkel gebruikt worden op basis voor
dienstnoodwendigheden. Ze mogen uitgeleend worden aan derden voor het
uitvoeren van werken tijdens de duur van de werken. De derden moeten op
de hoogte worden gebracht van het auteursrecht. Van de bestanden mogen
papieren werkdocumenten worden afgeleid enkel in kleine hoeveelheden en
alleen d.m.v. plotten of kopiëren. De gebruiker heeft niet het recht de
gegevens te commercialiseren. 

It would also *roughly* get us somewhere if all streets (or these near
administrative borders) were tagged with postcode. 
Something like borders or postcode should be needed for the decent use
of OSM in navigation and lookups... This would give the borders at the
most important points: where you can cross / see them. 

Luc.







On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 12:39 +0200, Ben Laenen wrote:
> These administrative boundaries really seem to be a problem...
> 
> Does anyone have any idea what official institution actually keeps this 
> information? It should be described at least somewhere I'd think and my 
> naive self hopes there's somewhere a series of laws describing all 
> boundaries, but I have the feeling the NGI is the official 
> institution...
> 
> But I mean, there should be at least one law telling how to know in 
> which municipality a certain place is, right?
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday 14 August 2008, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > De atlas der buurtwegen is een officieel openbaar document,
> > > opgemaakt rond 1840. Van copyright kan hierop dus geen sprake zijn.
> >
> > Please don't do this just yet. I added information on "Atlas der
> > Buurtwegen/Atlas des Chemins Vicinaux" to the wiki, stating their
> > copyright status as unclear right now. I am getting expert legal
> > advice on their public domain status. The problem resides in the fact
> > that we want to make sure what constitutes a creative work. If
> > substantial _creative_ work was invested beyond just the digitisation
> > of these works, the provincial administrations may very well be able
> > to defend a copyright claim on them.
> >
> > Mark
> 
> 
> 
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