[OSM-talk-be] Openstreetmap Foundation: the Belgian Chapter

[Dennis Bollyn]

Some comments:
The goals: I wouldn't explicitly include OpenStreemap (international). I'm not even sure if that would be allow. I'd use something like this (derived from the last sentence):
Het ondersteunen en bevorderen van de openbaarheid, toegang tot en hergebruik van geografische gegevens.
This exact sentence may be too generic, but we don't want to limit possible activities and actions too much. 
In "Artikel 16", it might be useful to include that the "oproeping" can be done via e-mail. If this isn't explicitly mentioned, it isn't allowed.
For the "maatschappelijke zetel", we have to find someone who's willing to offer an address for this.
We might want to get a preliminary agreement from the owner of openstreepmap.be about the transfer of the ownership of the domain. The actual transfer can be done after the organization exists.
In any case, I'd be interested in becoming a member, even though I haven't been active recently.
Best regards,
Gyrbo

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- 
Van : ivom [mailto:ivo.vdmaagdenberg at pandora.be]
Verzonden : donderdag , september 3, 2009 10:23 PM 
Aan : talk-be at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp : Re: [OSM-talk-be] Openstreetmap Foundation: the Belgian Chapter

Thank you first of all for the posted comments and references. 

I have picked up a fairly tiny existing bylaw as an example and adapted it 
slightly for our purpose. So it is drafting response time for those who 
are interested. 

I have not cross-checked the draft fully with the fgov documents, but I 
think http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Chapter is 
the starting point for the next round of email :) 

Check the goals, they are most important. 

Don't hesitate to work out the discussion off-list on the wiki of cours! 

Bye, 
Ivom 


On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, ivom wrote: 

> Hi all, 
> 
> I have prepared a rudimentary vzw/asbl-stub on the wiki with the statutes of a 
> so-called future Openstreetmap Belgian Chapter. Something that should happen 
> some time, I thought. 
> 
> Check: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Chapter 
> 
> The basic idea here is to create a legal entity that is available locally to 
> work with Belgian instances like government, press, commercial businesses, etc. 
> Instead of going to the public, wast money, on a personal basis. So, this 
> entity should represent the people involved in the OpenStreetMap movement in 
> our region in a legal and practical way. I hope you can support this. 
> 
> The page refered to is in dutch right right now, just as a starting point to 
> start to discuss (translation help to french is really appreciated). I am not 
> 100% up to speed with MediaWiki mark-up, so this page also looks pretty 
> horrible at the moment. I hope that it at least communicates some of the bare 
> essentials however. I have ripped the basic structure from 
> http://www.lokalenmap.be/VZW/statuten. Please rip the current page apart at 
> will to increase readability and multi-language support :) 
> 
> To be clear, the page might probably need to be translated in French, to be 
> comform with the Belgian low for vzw/asbl organisations, but I don't know 
> precisely. Maybe, we even could write the whole thing in English and get that 
> submitted, but I don't know if that is allowed. 
> 
> Besides the local representation it is of importance to note that the vzw+asbl 
> should preferably be accepted as local representation of OpenStreetMap by the 
> OpenstreetMap Foundation (OSMF). For this to happen we have to adhere to some 
> rules of the OSMF. Those requirements are in the works howerver. I guess that 
> setting up our own structure to match those requirement is a worthwhile 
> excercise. Regarding these requirements, please read: 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters#Why_Local_Chapters.3F 
> 
> Please voice your opinion. And help work out the statuten/(french translation 
> please). 
> 
> The biggest hurdle at this time I think besides from the paperwork is, that 
> according to the current Local_Chapters wiki page OSMF asks for 20 signed 
> members. That means you and some 18 others, please regard me as a de facto 
> volenteer, by posting this email :) 
> 
> Please note that I am not a Lawyer, and the text is in draft. The official 
> document or documents (nl-fr) describing and launching the vzw/asbl, should 
> preferably be proof-read by someone knowledgable in the field of the applicable 
> law which applies in Belgium. 
> 
> And, even if you don't fancy becoming a member of the vzw/asbl, you could help 
> here too, by involving yourself or somebody that knows about the vzw/asbl law 
> in fine detail and help out that way. 
> 
> Bye, 
> 
> Ivom 
> 
> 
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