[OSM-talk-be] Logboek gebied

[Gerard Vanderveken]

I'm sorry to hear you feel like that.
 
And yes, the biggest force of OSM, that everybody can contribute, is 
also a disadvantage.
But I think it still outweigts. Most additions and edits are done with 
the best intentions. Malicious edits are very seldom.
And even with the most 'professional' people some 'colateral damage' may 
occur during edits. A simple PM can solve a lot of things. We are not 
only carthographs, but we form also part of the OSM community and as 
such,  comes also social interaction and education of newbees.
 
The data in OSM is in an organic growth and there is no eternal value of 
one particular edit. Every edit is at some point in time subject to edit 
and modification.
The intention of the Wiki  system is however that one should try to 
modify and keeping as much as much as possible from the original data in 
place and not simply delete and replace (altough this might be much 
easier in some cases).
And even if some data got deleted, then there will be always someone, 
that see the gap and add the data again. That is also the organic growth 
principle.
A pity for the original contributor, who saw its original effort lost 
and may loose its drive to continue.
That happens also in nature, where tree branches got overwhelmed by 
others and die, but in the end the tree florish as never before.

The GSM-antennas and the Lijn is of another order. Here too much data 
was added without the proper license.
Also done with the best intentions, but it turned out to be wrong and 
after some discussions, the data was removed and everything is now fine 
again.

Having to much rules will only form a bigger entry level for new 
contributers and in the end it may dry up new blood enterily. I see now 
a lot of respect for what is already accomplished by newbees and some 
hesitation of will my edits be add something or be welcomed (cfr recent 
Introduction thread in Talk.be) .
Even big organizations don't have all their data in order and some may 
also be subject to corrections (cfr GSM thread), so I feel that nobody 
should have a monopoly to some data.

Try to see the bright side of life at OSM. Meanwhile we thank you for 
all your contributions done.
And know you are welcome at any time to pick up with OSM again.

Au revoir,
Gerard.

filip wolters wrote:

> Nadat ik heb gemerkt dat er in een beperkt gebied verschillende inputs 
> van mij zijn verdwenen en ik niet weet of de aanpassingen morgen niet 
> weer verdwenen gaan zijn heb ik besloten om ermee te stoppen.
> In het verleden heb ik ook al aangegeven dat dit één van de 
> belangrijkste aandachtspunten zou moeten zijn van osm.
> Deze week waren er ook weer problemen met de gsm antennen, een tijd 
> geleden met data van de lijn, in Nederland en waarschijnlijk binnen 
> heel osm is het niet anders.
> Dit zijn dan nog maar de grote missers die toevallig ontdekt worden en 
> dit continu.
> Ook bv. bij wikipedia zijn er veel mensen vertrokken na de edit war 
> die er heerste. Hoe groter de groep vrijwilligers en hoe groter + 
> verfijnder de database is, hoe strakker de regels en organisatie zou 
> moeten zijn.
> Men zou er ook aan kunnen denken om bedrijven en organisaties die hun 
> data eventueel in osm willen plaatsen het alleenrecht te geven om die 
> data te wijzigen zodat daar ook geen soep van gemaakt wordt.
> Soit, ondertussen wacht ik af en bekijk later wel hoe osm is geëvolueerd.
>
> Groeten Filip
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