[OSM-talk-be] Using the tag place=neighbourhood

Gerard Vanderveken Ghia at ghia.eu
Sun Jun 24 08:19:35 UTC 2012


Hi,

I woukld not change it
place=hamlet. fits fine for Mariakerke
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Map_Features#Plaats_.28place.29
Hamlets typically do have a church and form a separate community.
suburbs are districts in cities, while neighbourhoods are more  a group 
of rural isolated  houses (all without churches)
That's what I think of it.
 Regards,
Gerard.

Sander Deryckere wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm busy drawing and correcting boundaries in W-VL. And for Oostende, 
> I have a strange issue (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oostende).
>
> The deelgemeenten of Oostende are Zandvoorde and Stene (as those are 
> the only ones that were still independent before the fusion of the 
> 70's). The hamlet Raversijde used to be part of Middelkerke, and it's 
> still rather separated from the main centre of Oostende.
>
> But Mariakerke was completely merged with Oostende in 1899 (so it 
> can't be considered as a deelgemeente). Because it isn't a 
> deelgemeente, this automatically means it should get the tag 
> place=hamlet. This while Mariakerke has over 10.000 inhabitants, so it 
> should deserve a title place=town when it wasn't merged so soon.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Places
>
> I would like to use the tag place=neigbourhood for Mariakerke.
>
> What do you think about the following definition?
>
> When the place has the name of a municipality or a deelgemeente, the 
> definitions stay as they are
>
> When the place doesn't have the name of a municipality or 
> deelgemeente, the tags place=hamlet and place=neighbourhood are used
>
> place=hamlet is used when the residential area is clearly separated 
> from other residential areas.
> place=neighbourhood is used when the residential area is part of the 
> residential area of a city, town or village.
>
> This follows my feeling about a hamlet being something rural, while a 
> neighbourhood is part of a bigger residential area. And it also 
> follows the international conventions (more or less) on the wiki: 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Place
>
> Regards,
> Sander
>
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