[OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium

[A.Pirard.Papou]

Hi,

I made a round up of 50++ OpenStreetBugs Zone30 POIs.
Many around Micheroux down to Fléron were already tagged, excellent.
But not so up the valley Vesdre, up to Verviers and Near Beaufays.

So that nobody examine the same "bugs" again, I added a comment "missing 
Zone 30" that a hovering mouse shows and I suggest you leave a similar 
trace too.

But I remembered how vaguely someone not aware of mapping requests changes.
I thought there's a better idea to make them understand what information 
we need and how to transmit it.  It's to write a Web page whose URL 
would be in the comment or anywhere (I hoped it would be clickable but 
it is not, but if you select it, nice Firefox will allow clicking).

So, I started writing this "Help us" general  page supposed to expl 
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_Belgium/Help_us>ain 
several things that the general Belgian can do to help our project 
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_Belgium/Help_us>.  
(In French because these POIs are for the people of Wallonia to read).

What do you think?
Should I continue this page?
Would you help?
Can we put its URL in the OSB comments?

On 2012-11-26 11:32, Jo wrote :
> The category in OSMOSE is simply called Openstreetbugs. 
OK. It was filtered out :-(
But those OSMOSE alerts are useless because they don't show the comments.
> I went to have a look at some of the bugs you solved and I think it's 
> important to add why there is a speed limit of 30 or 50.
As I write above, I did not tag any bug.  I just marked those that were 
already tagged.
> If the limit comes from a zoneXX or built-up area. There are other 
> traffic rules that are affected by this as well.
Where is the Belgian Web page where those who have added those tags 
should have read how the Belgian OSM community has decided to tag areas 
and speed limits in Belgium?
In particular, what is the definition of the "built-up" area you speak of?
> ...
> Also I think BE needs to be all caps. 'be' stands for the language 
> Byelorussian to me (I probably spen. When I look at taginfo I notice 
> that DE etc. is also all caps.
Both ISO 3166 (country) and ISO 639 (language) specify case-insensitive 
codes.
Lowercase is usually used.  Context must always distinguish countries 
and languages.
As well as Shakespeare's "2 be or not 2 BE" :-)
Although you could, you do not type talk-BE nor taxonweb.BE (1).
You may have noticed that most of the DNS names are written in lowercase.
Unix uses lowercase and uppercase is a Windows' habit being laughed at ;-)


    	country
    	language
    Belgium
    	be
    	fr, nl, de
    Белоруссия
    	by
    	ru, be

FYI, these poor people have been spread all over by radiation from a 
nuclear reactor in (t)Chernobyl on my 40th birthday.  Бело (biéla) means 
white and Черно (tchirno) means black.
> I created a mapcss file that works well together with the 
> maxspeed.mapcss. It adds an extra white border to streets within 
> built-up area and a black one outside. An extra brown border is added 
> to streets that are part of a zone30/50/70.
Glad to know you did.  But what is it for?  Do you maintain a speed 
limit map and where is it?

Cheers,

Papou André.


> Jo

(1) I have used taxonweb because it always works better than 
www.belgium.be/fr/ <http://www.belgium.be/>  :-)
See the text I have put in bold:


    Error 403--Forbidden


       From RFC 2068 /Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1/:


        10.4.4 403 Forbidden

The server understood the request, but *is refusing to fulfill it*. 
Authorization will not help and *the request SHOULD NOT be repeated*. If 
the request method was not HEAD and the server wishes to make public why 
the request has not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe the reason for 
the refusal in the entity. This status code is commonly used when *the 
server does not wish to reveal exactly why the request has been 
refused*, or when no other response is applicable.


>
> 2012/11/24 A.Pirard.Papou <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com 
> <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>
>
>     On 2012-11-23 00:17, Jo wrote :
>>     The code is definitely Python, using a regex is just the smart
>>     thing to do, whether in Python, Perl or Java. I had to massage
>>     the data a bit as well though, it wasn't entirely consistent.
>     Yes I know.  It was a joke.  It meant that without regex your
>     program and mine would probably triple in size.
>>     All these bugs from OSB can also be visualised in OSMOSE, it has
>>     a category for that.
>     What about telling us the category name and how to see it?
>     I see nothing.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     André.
>
>

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