[OSM-talk-be] Possible problem with Urbis data import in Brussels

[Jo]

Here we go again. I've been reading this page, when I was checking out what
was needed for adding the UrbIS data:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy

Where I found the following:
 Execute

We recommend setting up a special account for mechanical edits but you may
use your existing account. Any account used to perform mechanical edits
must have agreed to the new Contributor Terms.


I can't help it that information on the wiki is in several places. At first
I actually added this bot=yes flag to my changesets.


Anyway, I even discussed this with Frederik Ramm. He was very surprised,
but he didn't change the page, nor did he notify Paul Norman and Co. The
page has not been changed since then.

Anyhow, I did what needed to be done to comply with that page, maybe it
should link to all other pages, so people contemplating to do some sort of
import know which hoops need to be jumped through.


As far as the integration goes, I tried to learn from what happened in
France. Correct integration with already existing data and such. We don't
have blocks of houses with no streets in between. Discussion with the local
community has taken place. Not a single soul objected to the fact that we
would soon have all address data for Brussels capital region into the
database. In fact, I think that everybody is hoping that the rest of
Belgium will follow suit in the foreseeable future. PNorman shouldn't
despair, it's unlikely that this will happen the first 10-15 years...
Brussels information services is quite a pioneer to release their data
under a free license.

We've been at it for several months now, how come it's only being noticed
at this point in time? Did our changesets grow bigger, or is it only when
the information density becomes higher that flags are raised?

Kind regards,


Jo


2013/8/16 Benoit Leseul <benoit.leseul at gmail.com>

> Hi all,
>
> FYI, I received the following message from pnorman after doing an
> Urbis import today. You may want to refrain doing this until the
> situation is clarified.
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I noticed you conducting an import with
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17361862
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17360583
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16596677
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16572616
>
> The import guidelines require that imports be done from a dedicated
> account, after consultation with the local community and imports@ and
> be documented on the wiki. This was not done here.
>
> I can find no record of consultation with the imports@ mailing list.
> Where is it?
>
> You need to use a dedicated account
>
> To contact me you can send a message or email the data working group.
>
> Paul Norman
> for the Data Working Group
>
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