[OSM-talk-be] Possible problem with Urbis data import in Brussels

[Ben Abelshausen]

Hi,

I think we all know that this import is supported by our local community
here in Belgium.

What I know about imports:

- Always use separate accounts
- Always announce on the imports list

oh, and maybe that wiki page should change then? I think it needs to be
merged with this one:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

As i understand the Urbis import is not really mechanical editing?

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
http://twitter.com/xivk

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here we go again. I've been reading this page, when I was checking out
> what was needed for adding the UrbIS data:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy
>
> Where I found the following:
>  Execute
>
> We recommend setting up a special account for mechanical edits but you may
> use your existing account. Any account used to perform mechanical edits
> must have agreed to the new Contributor Terms.
>
>
> I can't help it that information on the wiki is in several places. At
> first I actually added this bot=yes flag to my changesets.
>
>
> Anyway, I even discussed this with Frederik Ramm. He was very surprised,
> but he didn't change the page, nor did he notify Paul Norman and Co. The
> page has not been changed since then.
>
> Anyhow, I did what needed to be done to comply with that page, maybe it
> should link to all other pages, so people contemplating to do some sort of
> import know which hoops need to be jumped through.
>
>
> As far as the integration goes, I tried to learn from what happened in
> France. Correct integration with already existing data and such. We don't
> have blocks of houses with no streets in between. Discussion with the local
> community has taken place. Not a single soul objected to the fact that we
> would soon have all address data for Brussels capital region into the
> database. In fact, I think that everybody is hoping that the rest of
> Belgium will follow suit in the foreseeable future. PNorman shouldn't
> despair, it's unlikely that this will happen the first 10-15 years...
> Brussels information services is quite a pioneer to release their data
> under a free license.
>
> We've been at it for several months now, how come it's only being noticed
> at this point in time? Did our changesets grow bigger, or is it only when
> the information density becomes higher that flags are raised?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Jo
>
>
> 2013/8/16 Benoit Leseul <benoit.leseul at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> FYI, I received the following message from pnorman after doing an
>> Urbis import today. You may want to refrain doing this until the
>> situation is clarified.
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I noticed you conducting an import with
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17361862
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17360583
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16596677
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16572616
>>
>> The import guidelines require that imports be done from a dedicated
>> account, after consultation with the local community and imports@ and
>> be documented on the wiki. This was not done here.
>>
>> I can find no record of consultation with the imports@ mailing list.
>> Where is it?
>>
>> You need to use a dedicated account
>>
>> To contact me you can send a message or email the data working group.
>>
>> Paul Norman
>> for the Data Working Group
>>
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