[OSM-talk-be] My first attempt at a boundary

[Marc Gemis]

Another question related to this boundary. Originally I did not touch the
boundary between Mechelen en Bonheiden. I just reused it for the
Muizen-boundary. I now noticed that the Bonheidensteenweg (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146650425) was partially in
Muizen-Mechelen and Bonheiden. So I moved the boundary at that point, i.e.
moved 1 point by merging it with the streetname change point.

But now I wonder whether the boundary should not be over the stream
 Boeimeerbeek. That makes more sense to me. In this case the street name
change should occur in the middle of the bridge.

I just checked AGIV, there is no (street) name on the bridge, but the
street names are different on both sides of the stream. Also, the name of
the stream is Vrouwvliet according to AGIV.

Can we improve the boundaries with data from AGIV ? Is there a WMS layer or
shape files we can use ?


m


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Glenn,
>
> I just used the node that was already in OSM.  I'll move it. I've done
> some surveys there, so I know where you want it.
>
> regards
>
> m
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be> wrote:
>
>>  Exactly what I feared, that point in Muizen has probably never been of
>> any importance,  in that sense the real historic centre of Muizen is the
>> area at the new church (and old tower) , about 1Km to the northwest of the
>> current coordinate used as centre.  Thats the reason I asked,  it is so way
>> off anything important (ever) and the location is insignificant even now.
>> Muizen (was) a village that is divided by de Dijle and de Leuvense
>> Steenweg.  Mechelen is currently consuming it at an evergrowing rate.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05-12-13 02:13, André Pirard wrote:
>>
>> On 2013-12-05 01:03, Glenn Plas wrote :
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> What is the point of the administrative center in the relation ?
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3359778
>>
>> I'm from that area, I know Muizen by heart but that administrative center
>> ....  that position has no meaning to me,  just wondering what that
>> represents.
>>
>> I'm not sure about Muizen, but I can compare with Dolembreux.
>> The question is first: "what is Dolembreux?"
>> Dolembreux is a "former municipality". It no longer exists as an
>> administrative boundary but yet it is still mapped as such, historically.
>> People love that.
>> And its "admin_center" is the "former administrative center". It no
>> longer exists as such either, but the mention continues to indicate where
>> the center town or village is.
>> It's just like Searching for Brussels on OSM.org, selecting Village
>> Boundary and you get this boundary
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2404021 with the village in the
>> middle :-)
>> I personally love this one the best -)
>>
>> Please note that, if the administration has moved to level 8 (to have the
>> citizens pay petrol rather than the administration pay personnel), the Post
>> Office continues to use level 9 very much (for post, not office) and that
>> they even use a sort of level 10.
>>
>> I would vote for a former_admin_center proposition, but there should be
>> an admin_center vote first!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>   André.
>>
>>
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