[OSM-talk-be] Fix my street (restated)

[André Pirard]

On 2013-07-07 13:50, Kurt Roeckx wrote :
> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 10:27:07AM +0200, André Pirard wrote:
>> On 2013-07-06 19:55, A.Pirard.Papou wrote :
>>> On 2013-07-06 15:06, Kurt Roeckx wrote :
>>>> I've known about the fix my street project for some time, but I
>>>> just found this:
>>>> http://fixmystreet.irisnet.be/
>>>>
>>>> This is apparently something that's orginaised by Brussel itself,
>>>> and currently 14 of the 19 municipalities use.
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody tries to contact the Flemisch or Walloon government
>>>> to try and do the same thing?  I think this could be useful to
>>>> have.
>>> Good idea indeed, especially if an application were written using OSM.
>>> ...
>> Afterthought:  that application already exists. It's called OpenStreeBugs.
>> (Even the name is appropriate for reporting holes in the streets ;-))
> I think they have a totally different purpose.  OpenStreetBugs and
> Notes are about problems with the map.  Those things need to be
> fixed in openstreetmap.   FixMyStreet are problems that aren't
> related to the map but with the street and other things that
> someone needs to fix in the real world.

What you say is that fixing a hole in the street is not the same as
adding a missing name on a map.
That is perfectly true.

What I say is that the same software can be used to report the location
of the hole, the missing name or whatever.
It must, of course, work on different databases and it may need some
modifications, esp. regarding who clears up the reports and how (e.g.
are the warnings generating e-mail or things like that).
Keeping the reports on screen to avoid duplicates and spare people's
time is a key feature.

> That doesn't mean that that the software for FixMyStreet can't
> be improved.  It's open source.

Or the OpenStreetBug and FixMyStreet software could be merged to cover a
wider scope of applications.
That can be many, like events and not only in Belgium.


On 2013-07-07 10:37, Jo wrote :
> Openstreetbugs is being replaced by the recent addition of Notes.
Ah. Addition to the main map. I had seen it, clicked it and seen nothing.
It should be   Parcourir les notes
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes>   IMHO.  I wish they were
showing other hidden data like POIs the same way.

It's not clear to me if Notes uses a different database than OSM, if
what I say of OSB holds for Notes.
It is not clear if "Planned support in other applications
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes#Planned_support_in_other_applications>"
means that other applications could update the same database as Notes or
if the Notes software is made portable so that they they can update
their own, or both.

In short, congratulations to all who write such applications, I hope
that my 2 €¢ can help generalize their scope and ... I'll let you debug
the documentation ;-)

BTW, I've made this update to this text
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Notes#Adding_a_note> and I'll do it
in Russian too.  If s.o.can update another language ...
> Leave a short message on the map if something is missing or obviously
> wrong, like "oneway in wrong direction" *"oneway goes northbound"* or
> "bridge or level_crossing?". These reports can be processed by map
> editors. *Add the message understandably and thoughtfully, e.g. not
> **"oneway in wrong direction"  because someone could have flipped the
> direction before the note is read. *

Cheers,

André.


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