[OSM-talk-be] AGIV CRAB not usable in OSM!

[Ben Abelshausen]

Hi Again,

Friday last week someone from AGIV called me to have a talk about the
licence for CRAB and they will not change theirs for now. I also explained
why we could not, similar to a commercial map provider, just add a
disclaimer to our data. That is actually their only demand.

*The orthofoto's is no problem, that has been confirmed again.*

Anyway there was a bit of dissapointment on both sides about this. I also
asked about the new Flemish open data licenses but they had no plans in
that direction. There was even talk about closing the data again in 2015
but that descision was still to be made...

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
http://twitter.com/xivk

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
> wrote:

> OK I will immediately reply with this to them. Curious about the response.
>
> Thanks again to open-data-Pieter! :-)
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
> http://twitter.com/xivk
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Pieter Colpaert <
> pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> there is a clear deadline! The 14th of June they are doing the Flemish
>> Open Data day on which they have to show their work. That day is going to
>> advertise the Flemish open data licenses as well. We just need to convince
>> AGIV to start using the right ones:
>>
>> http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/**flemish-open-data-licenses/<http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/flemish-open-data-licenses/>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Pieter
>>
>>
>> On 05/17/2013 11:00 AM, Ben Abelshausen wrote:
>>
>>> Bad news!
>>>
>>> The AGIV licence of the adressing data (CRAB) is NOT ok for reuse for
>>> OSM. I was in the process of requesting a licence.
>>>
>>> The story is: you can get the data but when a third person is reusing
>>> this they also need to sign a licence. This means that we cannot reuse this
>>> data in the OSM-database. At least not copying it, maybe mapping based on
>>> it and not copying would be ok...
>>>
>>> In my opinion this is not really open data, just free data as in beer! I
>>> did get a response that they are aware of this limitation and are working
>>> on this but there is no clear deadline. One day we will get this data,
>>> including reuse, but we are not really there yet. But maybe by then all
>>> addresses will be mapped already and OSM will be the reference! :-)
>>>
>>> I'm very sorry about getting everybody worked-up about finally being
>>> able to use this data but there was some misunderstanding about what usage
>>> in OSM meant. In our case mapping or copying the data instead of just
>>> geocoding on the main OSM-website.
>>>
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Ben Abelshausen
>>> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com <mailto:ben.abelshausen at gmail.**com<ben.abelshausen at gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> http://twitter.com/xivk
>>>
>>>
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