[OSM-talk-be] AGIV CRAB not usable in OSM!

[Jo]

I'm not entirely convinced those Flemish open data licenses would really
help us a lot either.

Do they need a disclaimer shown on each and every rendering of the data?

Jo

2013/5/30 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshausen at gmail.com>

> Hi Again,
>
> Friday last week someone from AGIV called me to have a talk about the
> licence for CRAB and they will not change theirs for now. I also explained
> why we could not, similar to a commercial map provider, just add a
> disclaimer to our data. That is actually their only demand.
>
> *The orthofoto's is no problem, that has been confirmed again.*
>
> Anyway there was a bit of dissapointment on both sides about this. I also
> asked about the new Flemish open data licenses but they had no plans in
> that direction. There was even talk about closing the data again in 2015
> but that descision was still to be made...
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
> http://twitter.com/xivk
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Ben Abelshausen <
> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK I will immediately reply with this to them. Curious about the response.
>>
>> Thanks again to open-data-Pieter! :-)
>>
>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ben Abelshausen
>> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
>> http://twitter.com/xivk
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Pieter Colpaert <
>> pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> there is a clear deadline! The 14th of June they are doing the Flemish
>>> Open Data day on which they have to show their work. That day is going to
>>> advertise the Flemish open data licenses as well. We just need to convince
>>> AGIV to start using the right ones:
>>>
>>> http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/**flemish-open-data-licenses/<http://okfn.be/2013/05/04/flemish-open-data-licenses/>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Pieter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/17/2013 11:00 AM, Ben Abelshausen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bad news!
>>>>
>>>> The AGIV licence of the adressing data (CRAB) is NOT ok for reuse for
>>>> OSM. I was in the process of requesting a licence.
>>>>
>>>> The story is: you can get the data but when a third person is reusing
>>>> this they also need to sign a licence. This means that we cannot reuse this
>>>> data in the OSM-database. At least not copying it, maybe mapping based on
>>>> it and not copying would be ok...
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion this is not really open data, just free data as in beer!
>>>> I did get a response that they are aware of this limitation and are working
>>>> on this but there is no clear deadline. One day we will get this data,
>>>> including reuse, but we are not really there yet. But maybe by then all
>>>> addresses will be mapped already and OSM will be the reference! :-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm very sorry about getting everybody worked-up about finally being
>>>> able to use this data but there was some misunderstanding about what usage
>>>> in OSM meant. In our case mapping or copying the data instead of just
>>>> geocoding on the main OSM-website.
>>>>
>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ben Abelshausen
>>>> ben.abelshausen at gmail.com <mailto:ben.abelshausen at gmail.**com<ben.abelshausen at gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> http://twitter.com/xivk
>>>>
>>>>
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