[OSM-talk-be] osm.be

[Glenn Plas]

Comments inline:

On 2013-09-11 05:44, Marc Gemis wrote:
> I believe that there was a blog post on Coding Error that 
> stackoverflow got most traffic via google search. Google is the 
> dominant search engine, whether we like it or not. Anyhow, Search 
> Engine Optimization (SEO) is something you cannot neglect as a 
> business. But the domain name is not that relevant imho.

I'm pretty much on top of that subject professionally, try to follow me 
on this:  when you have the same pages on different domains, your 
domains will compete with eachother as they are exactly the same, if you 
don't redirect correctly.  Hence why I mention to do this the right way 
as I see it too many times that people buy every domain they can think 
of.   Next to that google will crawl every domain seperately as it has 
no idea it's the same, so your traffic will grow exponentially.   On a 
static site, that is usually not an issue, but once you go 
drupal/wordpress/joomla/etc...  your server will get hits.   I've had 
this happen to huge customers (agenda.nieuwsblad.be for example).  The 
servers that do this where dying just because crawlers had a free pass, 
everyone came by, Russian, Chinese , Google , Bing, fake google bots, 
bots not respecting your robots.txt, etc etc ... this accounted for more 
than 60% of the traffic,  those numbers went into the terrabytes 
monthly.  So by just limiting and holding google's hand instead of 
buying new servers as the customer planned, this platform is now doing 
almost nothing and analytics do not suffer.


Here is a site explaining this in more detail: 
http://www.k2seo.com/competing-with-yourself/

>
> Search for "rent a room in new york" and the top hit is airbnb.com 
> <http://airbnb.com> . No "room", "rent" nor "NY" in the name. Content, 
> metatag, links from other sites, url of pages etc. all play a role. 
> Google only give hints on what their algorithm uses, all the rest are 
> guesses.
I fail to see the point of the statement in this context.   My point was 
sending a warning to pay attention to multiple sites serving the exact 
same content (alias domains).

>
> I would also stick the to naming convention used in the other 
> countries so openstreetmap.be <http://openstreetmap.be>
> (there are e.g. openstreetmap.nl <http://openstreetmap.nl>, 
> openstreetmap.fr <http://openstreetmap.fr>, openstreetmap.de 
> <http://openstreetmap.de> )
>
> Also what technology are they using for their sites ? Their 
> communities (especially the German one) are larger and they might 
> develop reusable components, that can be used on other sites. And what 
> is the main openstreetmap.org <http://openstreetmap.org> using (read 
> it somewhere but forgot it)

openstreetmaps.org uses Ruby on Rails, the code is available here : 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website

Glenn

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