[OSM-talk-be] osm.be

[Glenn Plas]

On 2013-09-11 05:50, Marc Gemis wrote:
> Drupal only for a blogs ? That must be a joke. Colleagues of mine 
> developed Drupal websites for a shop, a dog school, karate club etc. 
> in their spare time.

Ok, maybe that sounded wrong, I wasn't implying that Drupal is not 
powerfull.   Volunteers aren't as resourceful as paid employees, you 
need to see the context of this .  You need people to maintain it too, 
for a longer period.  And in the beginning, ,many are on board, but down 
the road that will change, people loose interest, make children, move 
on, find other hobbies...  I'm not saying drupal is bad, I'm saying it 
usually overkill for a blog, but in this case after seeing the comments 
and the goal, I think it would be suited to start with osm.be.

>
> look around at 
> http://www.flashmint.com/wp/2012/08/20-best-drupal-sites-of-2012/ (or 
> one of the many other sites listing interesting drupal sites)

I know drupal pretty wel, I'm aware of it's capabilities.  But have you 
checked the underlying engine, the pages it generates out of the box ?  
Bloated pages,  tons of javascript getting loaded and never used.  
That's why I think such solutions are overkill in plenty of cases.  If 
you want to create a busy site (so not just the small karate club 
receiving 30 visitors per day ), you have to realise that dynamic 
generated pages demand much more resources, you could solve plenty of 
that by using caches like redis and/or memcached or varnish, in fact I 
would recommend all of them but you need to take this into account at 
the design phase now.

I'm pretty sure that this isn't on the radar yet.   I don't know how 
busy that site will become but at one point it could happen that all the 
sudden it grinds to a halt, since from the start that wasn't 
anticipated.   So people looking for cheap 
hosting/housing/cloud/whatever need to be aware that down the line you 
need more than just a webserver and a framework on top of it so it can 
grow too.

Glenn