[OSM-talk-be] New user OsmAnd_Pieter - continued

[André Pirard]

On 2014-01-20 20:09, Wouter Hamelinck wrote :
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:51 PM, André Pirard
> <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 2014-01-20 16:11, Wouter Hamelinck wrote :
>>     Why is everybody blaming OSMAND? As far as I know JOSM to give an
>>     example won't deliver messages either...
>>     All his changesets I check mention iD as editor. According to me he
>>     uses simply the web editor. Probably he simply adds duplicates because
>>     they don't show on the main map and he thinks that they are not yet in
>>     the data.
>>
>>     wouter
>
>     I wrote that Osmand cannot update the map.
>     It's true but it can just add a POI (and upload a GPX trace, and
>     file a bug).
>     If it's what it's all about here and if it's worth it, I can
>     introduce an Osmand request.
>     I am subscribed on Osmand.
>
>     Isn't there a way to indicate in the change set that the update
>     came from Osmand?
>     I think it would be a good thing to ask.
>     Let us put up together  the text of the request first, OK?
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     André.
>
>
>
> Andre,
>
> What do you mean by adding a POI without updating the map? I've never
> used Osmand and have troubles imagining how that works.

I mean that Osmand cannot generally update (edit) the map but that in
can *just* add/update/delete a POI.
In fact, it can modify any tag on a node (waypoint) but it can't move
them or deal with ways, let alone relations.
It can also add GPX traces and OSM Notes.
> It is possible to indicate how the update was made. If you open the
> last changeset of the user in question
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20086153) you will see that it
> is tagged "created_by=iD 1.5.3". The same for all changesets of this
> user that I checked. That is why I assume he uses iD (the standard
> editor you get when you click "Edit" on the main map). If Osmand puts
> that tag, it is a bug. But as long as there is no proof of it I would
> wait with a bugreport. Here there is no proof, only a suggestive username.
I checked that Osmand correctly identifies itself and the user name in
change sets, except for Notes which can be written without
identification.  It stacks all requests, possibly offline, and they're
sent in a batch.

> Marc,
>
> Thank you for pointing out that JOSM shows a popup when you have a
> message. I didn't know that. I'm clearly not getting a lot of messages
> from you guys.
>
> Glenn,
>
> Same answer as always I'm afraid. Try to contact the user, but if the
> user doesn't respond there is not much you can do but correcting the
> errors of others. It has happened many times before and it will happen
> again in the future.

Wouldn't it be a nice feature to be able to send a user a message like
"Subject: read before updating" that would block the updates? 
Unfortunately, our world would make fear for abuse.  We're not in
paradise and even there I've heard that God's coordinates are kept secret.

Cheers,

André.



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