[OSM-talk-be] Destination tagging on motorways

[Johan C]

@ Ben thanks for the tips. There is indeed redundancy in junction:ref and
motorway_junction. However, it's a logical thing to map all signage info on
the way.

@ Sander, Marc & others: when you collect photos/videos on signs I can put
the data in OSM

Cheers, Johan

2014-09-10 18:24 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:

> So it's just a good editor that prevents you from using the
> destination:lanes tagging schema :-)
> One that allows you to set the values in an easy way and compose the
> complex syntax itself. Just like the Opening Hours editor in JOSM does
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Op 10 september 2014 17:45 schreef Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Welcome back, Sander,
>>>
>>> did you take a sabbatical away from OSM ? :-)
>>>
>>
>> Sortof. Got occupied with other stuff.
>>
>>>
>>> You could tag destination on the way after the junction, which is
>>> simplier, but then you do not have the lane selection information. This
>>> information is now available in modern, commercial routing apps. (the one
>>> in my car e.g.)
>>>
>>> Is there another tagging schema, that holds lane information and is
>>> simpler ?
>>>
>>
>> No approved schema. But we just try to cram too much into one tag (with
>> strange separators like | and ;). I'd prefer one tag per lane that differs
>> from the default. The amount of text would still be about the same, but it
>> would be easier to read imo.
>>
>>>
>>> Neither of them is very popular at the moment, though the plain
>>> destination is ahead:
>>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/destination/destination:lanes
>>>
>>> regards
>>> m
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-09-10 10:12 GMT+02:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> I've never been a big fan of the current lane tagging schema. F.e.,
>>>> just try to tag the first picture on that wiki page:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> destination:lanes=Brno;Poysdorf;Mistelbach|Brno;Poysdorf;Mistelbach;Graz;Wien|Graz;Wien
>>>> destination:ref:lanes=A5|A5;S1;A2|S1;A2
>>>> destination:country:lanes=CZ|CZ;SK;H;SLO;I|SK;H;SLO;I
>>>> destination:symbol:lanes=|airport|airport
>>>>
>>>> Are we really trying to hang ourselves?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, that said, I'll never map anything with the :lanes extension
>>>> myself, nor will I edit any such tag, but I you're willing to go through
>>>> that painful process, I won't stop you.
>>>>
>>>> (oh, and if you want cooperation for all Belgian highways, better also
>>>> put your message in English or French).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sander
>>>>
>>>> Op 10 september 2014 09:13 schreef Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Ik heb al enkele prive berichten uitgewisseld gehad met Johan over dit
>>>>> topic en ook op het NL-forum hebben we het erover gehad. Naar aanleiding
>>>>> van deze communicatie heb ik al een paar "junctions" verplaatst naar de
>>>>> plek die de wiki beschrijft. Omdat ik zelf niet in de mogelijkheid ben om
>>>>> foto's te maken van de borden, heb ik het noodgedwongen moeten houden op
>>>>> het mappen van de lanes & turn:lanes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ik ben dus blij dat Johan bereid is om ons hierbij te helpen. Hopelijk
>>>>> inspireert dit anderen om ook foto's of filmpjes te gebruiken om de
>>>>> "destinations" in kaart te brengen.
>>>>>
>>>>> groeten
>>>>>
>>>>> m
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-09-09 22:57 GMT+02:00 Ben Laenen <benlaenen at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday 09 September 2014 22:14:25 Johan C wrote:
>>>>>> > In Nederland heb ik de snelwegen op veel plaatsen voorzien van
>>>>>> > bestemmingen. Als bijrijder ben ik in de gelegenheid geweest om
>>>>>> afgelopen
>>>>>> > maand de bebording op de route Breda-Antwerpen-Gent-Kortrijk-Lille
>>>>>> vice
>>>>>> > versa te fotograferen. Die wil ik graag op de manier zoals ik die in
>>>>>> > Nederland heb getagd gaan taggen. Dat houdt het volgende in:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > - invoeren destination details conform de werkwijze op
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Destination_details
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> > inclusief het invoeren van het afritnummer met de tag junction:ref
>>>>>>
>>>>>> De afritten zelf zouden er al moeten inzitten met hun naam en nummer
>>>>>> onder
>>>>>> highway=motorway_junction + ref=* + name=*. De exacte bestemmingen
>>>>>> ontbreken
>>>>>> inderdaad. Waar komt de junction:ref eigenlijk vandaan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wel even de opmerking dat er verschil is tussen de naam van een afrit
>>>>>> en de
>>>>>> bestemming. Op deze borden
>>>>>> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Afrit-4-Oostende-A10.jpg zie je
>>>>>> de naam, de blauwe borden met pijlen hebben de
>>>>>> bestemming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voor de rest: leef je maar uit :-)
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>
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