[OSM-talk-be] WMS for Wallonia

[André Pirard]

Hi,

First of all, deepest congratulations to Julien on his new baby.
Family life is what matters most.

Le 24/09/14 06:57, Jo a écrit :
> 2014-09-21 15:24 GMT+02:00 Gilbert Hersschens <ghersschens at gmail.com
> <mailto:ghersschens at gmail.com>>:
>> I lost track of the conversation about using the aerial imagery for
>> Wallonia from arcgis. Are we allowed to use them or not ?
>>
>> Regards, Gilbert
> Hi Gilbert,
>
> It would be good if that could be cleared up. I don't know who to ask
> though. It seems like Julien has other stuff to worry about at the moment.
>
> Jo

10 mo answer:

On 2014-05-08 16:58, Julien Fastré wrote :
> Hi,
>
> good news from the walloon front : the strategic plan for geomatica
> was approved, and, following those who may read it, our request sent
> with OKFN were heard !
>
> The minister Henry asked to the SPW (his administration) to set up all
> data from SPW as Open Data; they received a "green light" to do that.
> Politically, it seems to me something really new.

On 2014-09-24 10:55, Julien Fastré wrote :
> Hi,
>
> Indeed, having a little baby at home take time...
>
> I received an email last week from the SPW saying that there are a
> new  "conditions d'utilisation du service" which allow us to copy data
> from the Orthophoto and - maybe - other datas.
>
>
>>  je vous informe de la situation concernant 
>> l'autorisation d'utilisation des orthophotos via nos services : nous 
>> avons rédigé une _licence services qui est « générale »_.  Elle 
>> s'applique aux différents cas de figure possibles et pas seulement à l'utilisation des orthophotos.
> (...)
>> Puisque la « licence services » a été adoptée, celle-ci s'applique 
>> donc.  
> (...)
>> Par application de celle-ci, les différents utilisateurs ont le droit 
>> de se connecter aux serveurs du SPW, de digitaliser les ortho et de 
>> réutiliser les fonds de plan produits par eux à des fins commerciales.
>> Donc, elle répond aussi à votre demande !
> Reading the licence, it is not said "you may copy data to OSM", but
> they say :
>
>> Article 3. Principe
>> §1 er . Sous réserve du paragraphe 2, le SPW permet l’accès et
>> l’utilisation gratuits des services par
>> tout utilisateur.
>> §2. Les services à accès sécurisé font l’objet d’une autorisation
>> dont les modalités sont décrites dans
>> les métadonnées associées.
> *
> **We may use the services.* In Wallonia, some things happens in a
> quite formal/informal way. Some people are not convinced by an
> official ODbL licence, or CC-BY, but a lot of people are fighting for
> that inside the SPW, and that's what we could reach, until now.
>
> Julien
On my side, I wrote long explanations that SPW does *not* provide WMS
for most data (1) and that when it does it does, it does not, despite
claims, provide EPSG:4326 which is practically considered a WMS
requirement and is necessary for JOSM; Julien answered that these are
not interesting remarks.
So, the answer to "WMS for Wallonia" is "no" but if you restrict the
question to "aerial imagery" it is the only case for which EPSG:4326 WMS
exists (if the bug is corrected (one half of Wallonia blank)).

Cheers,

André.


(1)
Minister Henry's "all data"
SPW's "Elle s'applique aux différents cas de figure possibles et pas
seulement à l'utilisation des orthophotos."

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