[OSM-talk-be] roadsign plugin adapted for Belgium
Karel Adams
fa348739 at skynet.be
Fri Feb 13 17:46:31 UTC 2015
Op zijn minst bestaan er gereserveerde parkeerplaatsen.
Voorbeeld aan station Nekkerspoel (Ontvoeringsplein).
https://www.google.be/maps/@51.029946,4.489369,3a,30y,106.71h,86.96t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJ2aKjl84Hyve3lEwG3UrVA!2e0?hl=nl
On 13-02-15 17:03, Jo wrote:
> Do we have car sharing traffic rules in Belgium?
>
> 2015-02-13 14:56 GMT+01:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com
> <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>>:
>
>
>
> 2015-02-11 16:17 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com
> <mailto:sanderd17 at gmail.com>>:
>
> I tried it a bit, and I do have some concerns with both the
> mapping plugin and the style JOSM uses.
>
> First, I think that a traffic sign should only have tags like
>
> traffic_sign=BE:C21[7]
>
> and no tags like
>
> maxweight=7
>
> Those legal implications of traffic signs should stay on way
> segments IMO.
>
>
> Fully agree with you, atm you can get the effect you want by
> ticking or unchecking the tick box.
>
>
> Then I've always had problem with tagging variable speed
> limits (f.e. those dynamic zone-30 signs). When mapping signs,
> there should be a clear difference between the variable sign
> and the fixed sign, and that setting should also apply to the
> tags on the way segments.
>
>
> same here
>
>
> Since we're tagging directions on road pieces too, allowing
> direction signs (f.e. F29) should also be possible.
>
>
> It's a matter of adding it to the XML file. Not hard to do, but it
> hadn't been high on my priority list. The icons are already
> present in the plugin's image files. One of the reasons I hadn't
> added them yet (apart from lack of time), is that I'm concerned
> they will take up a lot of space, so the plugin should be changed
> and have tabs for categories of signs.
>
>
> Now, wrt the specific Belgian case, I've also seen a few
> mistakes, though not that many, since the plugin isn't very
> usable before solving the above.
>
> C9 is translated to moped=no on the wiki, while it's mofa=no
> on the plugin. I know the difference is very fuzzy (and the
> relation to class A and B too), but we should at least use a
> uniform tagging.
>
>
> C9 seems to be meaningless if Class A or B are not mentioned.
> Changed to moped.
>
>
> C23 is translated to goods=no on the wiki, and hgv=no on the
> plugin, again, the difference is rather fuzzy.
>
> added both
>
>
> C24a and C24b are both tagged as hazmat=no on the plugin,
> again a difference with the wiki, and I'm not sure what the
> hazmat_ADR_tunnel sign is.
>
>
> conformed to the wiki, even though no information about
> access:explosives can be found there
>
>
> Sign combinations (like C5+C7) also aren't available in the
> plugin.
>
>
> Didn't readily know what to do with those. Added them now
>
>
> No-stopping signs are missing from the plugin, and no-parking
> signs have no tags attached (parking:lanes:right=no would be
> the default tag I guess).
>
>
> Added, it's work in progress. I skipped the ones I didn't feel
> sure enough about.
>
>
> The F1 sign (without buildings background) is deprecated and
> all need to be replaced against June 1st (see
> http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20141120_01386508 as example),
> I don't think the plugin will be production-ready against that
> time. So I don't think it's worth to include the sign (at
> least not with that graphic).
>
>
> Leaving it for the time being. Feel free to contribute a better
> graphic for F1a.
>
>
> F9 should be translated to motorroad=yes instead of motorway=yes
>
>
> changed
>
>
> The F17 sign contains some strange defaults (conditional
> access restrictions?)
>
>
> copy pasted from wiki, I'll remove them.
>
>
> I didn't really check the validity of sub-signs, as I've often
> found sub-signs very confusing in real life.
>
>
> +1
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Jo
>
>
>
>
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