[OSM-talk-be] roadsign plugin adapted for Belgium

Karel Adams fa348739 at skynet.be
Fri Feb 13 17:46:31 UTC 2015


Op zijn minst bestaan er gereserveerde parkeerplaatsen.
Voorbeeld aan station Nekkerspoel (Ontvoeringsplein).
https://www.google.be/maps/@51.029946,4.489369,3a,30y,106.71h,86.96t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJ2aKjl84Hyve3lEwG3UrVA!2e0?hl=nl

On 13-02-15 17:03, Jo wrote:
> Do we have car sharing traffic rules in Belgium?
>
> 2015-02-13 14:56 GMT+01:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com 
> <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>>:
>
>
>
>     2015-02-11 16:17 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:sanderd17 at gmail.com>>:
>
>         I tried it a bit, and I do have some concerns with both the
>         mapping plugin and the style JOSM uses.
>
>         First, I think that a traffic sign should only have tags like
>
>         traffic_sign=BE:C21[7]
>
>         and no tags like
>
>         maxweight=7
>
>         Those legal implications of traffic signs should stay on way
>         segments IMO.
>
>
>     Fully agree with you, atm you can get the effect you want by
>     ticking or unchecking the tick box.
>
>
>         Then I've always had problem with tagging variable speed
>         limits (f.e. those dynamic zone-30 signs). When mapping signs,
>         there should be a clear difference between the variable sign
>         and the fixed sign, and that setting should also apply to the
>         tags on the way segments.
>
>
>     same here
>
>
>         Since we're tagging directions on road pieces too, allowing
>         direction signs (f.e. F29) should also be possible.
>
>
>     It's a matter of adding it to the XML file. Not hard to do, but it
>     hadn't been high on my priority list. The icons are already
>     present in the plugin's image files. One of the reasons I hadn't
>     added them yet (apart from lack of time), is that I'm concerned
>     they will take up a lot of space, so the plugin should be changed
>     and have tabs for categories of signs.
>
>
>         Now, wrt the specific Belgian case, I've also seen a few
>         mistakes, though not that many, since the plugin isn't very
>         usable before solving the above.
>
>         C9 is translated to moped=no on the wiki, while it's mofa=no
>         on the plugin. I know the difference is very fuzzy (and the
>         relation to class A and B too), but we should at least use a
>         uniform tagging.
>
>
>     C9 seems to be meaningless if Class A or B are not mentioned.
>     Changed to moped.
>
>
>         C23 is translated to goods=no on the wiki, and hgv=no on the
>         plugin, again, the difference is rather fuzzy.
>
>     added both
>
>
>         C24a and C24b are both tagged as hazmat=no on the plugin,
>         again a difference with the wiki, and I'm not sure what the
>         hazmat_ADR_tunnel sign is.
>
>
>     conformed to the wiki, even though no information about
>     access:explosives can be found there
>
>
>         Sign combinations (like C5+C7) also aren't available in the
>         plugin.
>
>
>     Didn't readily know what to do with those. Added them now
>
>
>         No-stopping signs are missing from the plugin, and no-parking
>         signs have no tags attached (parking:lanes:right=no would be
>         the default tag I guess).
>
>
>     Added, it's work in progress. I skipped the ones I didn't feel
>     sure enough about.
>
>
>         The F1 sign (without buildings background) is deprecated and
>         all need to be replaced against June 1st (see
>         http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20141120_01386508 as example),
>         I don't think the plugin will be production-ready against that
>         time. So I don't think it's worth to include the sign (at
>         least not with that graphic).
>
>
>     Leaving it for the time being. Feel free to contribute a better
>     graphic for F1a.
>
>
>         F9 should be translated to motorroad=yes instead of motorway=yes
>
>
>     changed
>
>
>         The F17 sign contains some strange defaults (conditional
>         access restrictions?)
>
>
>     copy pasted from wiki, I'll remove them.
>
>
>         I didn't really check the validity of sub-signs, as I've often
>         found sub-signs very confusing in real life.
>
>
>     +1
>
>     Thanks!!!
>
>     Jo
>
>
>
>
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