[OSM-talk-be] roadsign plugin adapted for Belgium

[Jo]

Do we have car sharing traffic rules in Belgium?

2015-02-13 14:56 GMT+01:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:

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> 2015-02-11 16:17 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>:
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>> I tried it a bit, and I do have some concerns with both the mapping
>> plugin and the style JOSM uses.
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>> First, I think that a traffic sign should only have tags like
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>> traffic_sign=BE:C21[7]
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>> and no tags like
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>> maxweight=7
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>> Those legal implications of traffic signs should stay on way segments IMO.
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> Fully agree with you, atm you can get the effect you want by ticking or
> unchecking the tick box.
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>> Then I've always had problem with tagging variable speed limits (f.e.
>> those dynamic zone-30 signs). When mapping signs, there should be a clear
>> difference between the variable sign and the fixed sign, and that setting
>> should also apply to the tags on the way segments.
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> same here
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>> Since we're tagging directions on road pieces too, allowing direction
>> signs (f.e. F29) should also be possible.
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> It's a matter of adding it to the XML file. Not hard to do, but it hadn't
> been high on my priority list. The icons are already present in the
> plugin's image files. One of the reasons I hadn't added them yet (apart
> from lack of time), is that I'm concerned they will take up a lot of space,
> so the plugin should be changed and have tabs for categories of signs.
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>> Now, wrt the specific Belgian case, I've also seen a few mistakes, though
>> not that many, since the plugin isn't very usable before solving the above.
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>> C9 is translated to moped=no on the wiki, while it's mofa=no on the
>> plugin. I know the difference is very fuzzy (and the relation to class A
>> and B too), but we should at least use a uniform tagging.
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> C9 seems to be meaningless if Class A or B are not mentioned. Changed to
> moped.
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>> C23 is translated to goods=no on the wiki, and hgv=no on the plugin,
>> again, the difference is rather fuzzy.
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> added both
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>> C24a and C24b are both tagged as hazmat=no on the plugin, again a
>> difference with the wiki, and I'm not sure what the hazmat_ADR_tunnel sign
>> is.
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> conformed to the wiki, even though no information about access:explosives
> can be found there
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>> Sign combinations (like C5+C7) also aren't available in the plugin.
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> Didn't readily know what to do with those. Added them now
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>> No-stopping signs are missing from the plugin, and no-parking signs have
>> no tags attached (parking:lanes:right=no would be the default tag I guess).
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> Added, it's work in progress. I skipped the ones I didn't feel sure enough
> about.
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>> The F1 sign (without buildings background) is deprecated and all need to
>> be replaced against June 1st (see
>> http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20141120_01386508 as example), I don't
>> think the plugin will be production-ready against that time. So I don't
>> think it's worth to include the sign (at least not with that graphic).
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> Leaving it for the time being. Feel free to contribute a better graphic
> for F1a.
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>> F9 should be translated to motorroad=yes instead of motorway=yes
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> changed
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>> The F17 sign contains some strange defaults (conditional access
>> restrictions?)
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> copy pasted from wiki, I'll remove them.
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>> I didn't really check the validity of sub-signs, as I've often found
>> sub-signs very confusing in real life.
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> +1
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> Thanks!!!
>
> Jo
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