[OSM-talk-be] Friendliness with attacked mapped places in Paris

André Pirard a.pirard.papou at gmail.com
Sat Nov 14 17:07:06 UTC 2015


On 2015-11-14 17:24, Ruben Maes wrote :
> Hi
>
> I'm sorry, but just no. Though I am personally shocked just like everyone else, I feel that OSM is IMO not the place for these kind of messages. I would rather have your changeset reverted.
My mind was not agreeing with my heart when clicking "send" because I
feared this reply.
> Furthermore, you have no right to speak on behalf of *all* OSM mappers. 
That is exactly why I posted this message, to know the general opinion
about it.
At this time, it's 1 no 2 yes.
I'm waiting for more reactions and if there is not a strong majority of
yeses, I will revert.
So, please say yes if you feel like it, not just no.

By all means, do not tell anybody else that the OSM community until a
decision is made by Monday.

And please everybody, say something else that just noes and tell us what
you think about the Wikipedia link.  That is, a link that is not the
website of the element but to information related to it.
> There may even be terrorists here for all we know.
>
> If this were to appear in the press like you suggest, I would feel ashamed and have the feeling that we are using the events for our own cause, which too many people are already doing.
I don't feel like that at all.  There is no boasting.
Would you suppress humanitarian tagging about which there is much boasting?

Cheers

André.


> Regards
> Ruben
>
>
> Saturday 14 November 2015 17:14:57, André Pirard:
>> Hi,
>>
>> OpenstreetMap often extends friendliness by humanitarian tagging.
>> In this case of desolation, there is little to tag.  Little...
>> Wikipedia have been extremely fast
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks> in all
>> languages !!!
>> After some mourning period, the note below may be replaced by this (but
>> how?):
>> Attentats du 13 novembre 2015 en Île-de-France
>> <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentats_du_13_novembre_2015_en_%C3%8Ele-de-France>
>>
>> I have just uploaded this change set (scroll down the left pane):
>> Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that
>> happened here on 2015-11-13.
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35307155>
>> It adds the following note <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:note>
>> to the OSM elements at the 6 attacked locations.
>> (they were perfectly mapped, bravo)
>>> Nos plus sincères condoléances à propos des monstrueuses attaques
>>> terroristes qui ont eu lieu ici le 2015-11-13. Vous avez l'amitié de
>>> tous les contributeurs à OpenStreetMap de par le monde.
>> In their language.  Sorry no room for added English in <256 characters. 
>> Translates to:
>> Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that
>> happened here on 2015-11-13.
>> Receive the friendship of all the Openstreetmap contributors around the
>> world.
>>
>> Please forward this to other concerned OSM mailing lists.
>> Please let me know any change you come to an agreement with.
>> I will make any change easily using my *.osm file.
>>
>> By Monday, you may like to send the URL to the Press.
>> It won't be bad advertising for OpenStreetMap to show the places and to
>> join the world's cry .
>> But let us hope that vandalism will not be added to terrorism.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> André.
>>
>>
>

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