[OSM-talk-be] Friendliness with attacked mapped places in Paris

[Karel Adams]

Ruben heeft gelijk. Politiek is politiek. Dat is niet de bekommernis van 
onze gemeenschappelijke zaak ("cause commune").

Et à vous André: il ne faut pas mettre en question, voire même valider, 
l'opinion générale avant de l'avoir sollicitée.

Karel

On 14-11-15 17:07, André Pirard wrote:
> On 2015-11-14 17:24, Ruben Maes wrote :
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm sorry, but just no. Though I am personally shocked just like everyone else, I feel that OSM is IMO not the place for these kind of messages. I would rather have your changeset reverted.
> My mind was not agreeing with my heart when clicking "send" because I 
> feared this reply.
>> Furthermore, you have no right to speak on behalf of *all* OSM mappers.
> That is exactly why I posted this message, to know the general opinion 
> about it.
> At this time, it's 1 no 2 yes.
> I'm waiting for more reactions and if there is not a strong majority 
> of yeses, I will revert.
> So, please say yes if you feel like it, not just no.
>
> By all means, do not tell anybody else that the OSM community until a 
> decision is made by Monday.
>
> And please everybody, say something else that just noes and tell us 
> what you think about the Wikipedia link.  That is, a link that is not 
> the website of the element but to information related to it.
>> There may even be terrorists here for all we know.
>>
>> If this were to appear in the press like you suggest, I would feel ashamed and have the feeling that we are using the events for our own cause, which too many people are already doing.
> I don't feel like that at all.  There is no boasting.
> Would you suppress humanitarian tagging about which there is much 
> boasting?
>
> Cheers
>
> André.
>
>
>> Regards
>> Ruben
>>
>>
>> Saturday 14 November 2015 17:14:57, André Pirard:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> OpenstreetMap often extends friendliness by humanitarian tagging.
>>> In this case of desolation, there is little to tag.  Little...
>>> Wikipedia have been extremely fast
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks>  in all
>>> languages !!!
>>> After some mourning period, the note below may be replaced by this (but
>>> how?):
>>> Attentats du 13 novembre 2015 en Île-de-France
>>> <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentats_du_13_novembre_2015_en_%C3%8Ele-de-France>
>>>
>>> I have just uploaded this change set (scroll down the left pane):
>>> Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that
>>> happened here on 2015-11-13.
>>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35307155>
>>> It adds the following note<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:note>
>>> to the OSM elements at the 6 attacked locations.
>>> (they were perfectly mapped, bravo)
>>>> Nos plus sincères condoléances à propos des monstrueuses attaques
>>>> terroristes qui ont eu lieu ici le 2015-11-13. Vous avez l'amitié de
>>>> tous les contributeurs à OpenStreetMap de par le monde.
>>> In their language.  Sorry no room for added English in <256 characters.
>>> Translates to:
>>> Our deepest condolences about the horrible terrorist attacks that
>>> happened here on 2015-11-13.
>>> Receive the friendship of all the Openstreetmap contributors around the
>>> world.
>>>
>>> Please forward this to other concerned OSM mailing lists.
>>> Please let me know any change you come to an agreement with.
>>> I will make any change easily using my *.osm file.
>>>
>>> By Monday, you may like to send the URL to the Press.
>>> It won't be bad advertising for OpenStreetMap to show the places and to
>>> join the world's cry .
>>> But let us hope that vandalism will not be added to terrorism.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> André.
>>>
>>>
>>
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