[OSM-talk-be] Bicycle highways

Erik B ebe050 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 24 21:32:09 UTC 2016


There is a problem with the 'network' tag for those Fietsostrades.
The change of the network tag of the HST-Route Leuven-Brussel by the 
creator 3 years ago from 'network=rcn' to 'network=lcn' is justified "to 
solve a color conflict with the cycle node network". This looks like 
tagging for the renderer?
The Fietsostrade (Antwerpen-Mechelen' doesn't have a network tag yet, 
what makes it less visible on maps.
Shouldn't they get tag 'network=ncn' because Fietsostrades can be 
considered as a national network equal to RAVel?
It would make those Fietsostrades better visible.

Erik

Op 24-01-16 om 21:13 schreef Marc Gemis:
> The Fiets-o-Strade between Antwerpen en Mechelen is a relation [1]. I
> don't know who created it.
> As far as I remember there are "maps" along the route. I think the
> blue sign [2] is indicating it.
> For the rest you will only see destination signs for cyclist [3]
>
> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1948657
> [2] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/YW7xYSxMsa0173CATpNI9g/photo
> [3] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/npqKaMq-nByoT1qf4TYi4Q/photo
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Between Leuven and Brussels they are marked in a way that is verifiable on
>> the ground.
>>
>> We need a separate 'network' tag for them though, and it would be nice to
>> see they get rendered on the specialised bicycle maps.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-01-24 15:31 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>:
>>> Bicycle highways are more like bicycle routes than different highway
>>> types.
>>>
>>> They are a route specifically made for commuting, connecting residential
>>> area with some work center in a rather straight line.
>>>
>>> As such, I think those could get tagged as a cycle route with some
>>> specific sub tags (like a special network).
>>>
>>> The question is though: are they verifiable on the ground. Or is it just
>>> that European list naming them. It should only be tagged when you see
>>> something on the ground that you can relate to bicycle highways.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sander
>>>
>>> 2016-01-24 15:00 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be>:
>>>> Nothing really special about them,  highway=cycleway should be
>>>> appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> On 24-01-16 13:12, Matthieu Gaillet wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Below you will find some information about the developing bicycle
>>>>> highways (or fast cycling routes) a bit everywhere in the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if anything was foreseen to tag such highways ? If not,
>>>>> what's the best place to discuss this, since I guess this should be
>>>>> uniform at world level ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your answer,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthieu (sur iMobile)
>>>>>
>>>>> Début du message transféré :
>>>>>> Une recherche, évidemment loin d’être exhaustive, m’a fourni une
>>>>>> première liste de ce que l’ECF (European Cyclists’ Federation) dénomme
>>>>>> les  */Fast Cycling Routes/** :*
>>>>>> •  CH: Velobahn (Schaffhouse), TransAgglo (Fribourg), .
>>>>>> •  DE: Radschnellwege  (Ruhr, Berlin, Frankfurt, Heidelberg, München,
>>>>>> …)
>>>>>> •  DK: Supercykelstier (Kobenhavn)
>>>>>> •  FR: REV, Réseau Express Vélo, Autoroute à vélos (Toulouse),
>>>>>> Vélostras (Strasbourg), Grenoble, Paris,
>>>>>> •  NL: SnelleFietsroutes, Snelbinder
>>>>>>          Image en ligne
>>>>>> •  SV: Supercykelväg (Malmoe)
>>>>>> •  UK: Cycle Superhighways (London)
>>>>>> •  US: California Cycleway(1896)
>>>>>> •  VL: Fietsostrades (réalisations ; projets dans les 5 provinces)
>>>>>
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