[OSM-talk-be] Bicycle highways

[Sander Deryckere]

I think we should get away from those rcn, lcn and ncn networks. And be
freer in the allowed networks.

Even now there are problems with rcn networks used for cycle nodes, as
those are getting introduced in France and Germany, while those countries
already use those networks for other route types.

Regards,
Sander.
Op 24-jan.-2016 22:33 schreef "Erik B" <ebe050 at gmail.com>:

> There is a problem with the 'network' tag for those Fietsostrades.
> The change of the network tag of the HST-Route Leuven-Brussel by the
> creator 3 years ago from 'network=rcn' to 'network=lcn' is justified "to
> solve a color conflict with the cycle node network". This looks like
> tagging for the renderer?
> The Fietsostrade (Antwerpen-Mechelen' doesn't have a network tag yet, what
> makes it less visible on maps.
> Shouldn't they get tag 'network=ncn' because Fietsostrades can be
> considered as a national network equal to RAVel?
> It would make those Fietsostrades better visible.
>
> Erik
>
> Op 24-01-16 om 21:13 schreef Marc Gemis:
>
>> The Fiets-o-Strade between Antwerpen en Mechelen is a relation [1]. I
>> don't know who created it.
>> As far as I remember there are "maps" along the route. I think the
>> blue sign [2] is indicating it.
>> For the rest you will only see destination signs for cyclist [3]
>>
>> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1948657
>> [2] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/YW7xYSxMsa0173CATpNI9g/photo
>> [3] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/npqKaMq-nByoT1qf4TYi4Q/photo
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Between Leuven and Brussels they are marked in a way that is verifiable
>>> on
>>> the ground.
>>>
>>> We need a separate 'network' tag for them though, and it would be nice to
>>> see they get rendered on the specialised bicycle maps.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> 2016-01-24 15:31 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Bicycle highways are more like bicycle routes than different highway
>>>> types.
>>>>
>>>> They are a route specifically made for commuting, connecting residential
>>>> area with some work center in a rather straight line.
>>>>
>>>> As such, I think those could get tagged as a cycle route with some
>>>> specific sub tags (like a special network).
>>>>
>>>> The question is though: are they verifiable on the ground. Or is it just
>>>> that European list naming them. It should only be tagged when you see
>>>> something on the ground that you can relate to bicycle highways.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sander
>>>>
>>>> 2016-01-24 15:00 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be>:
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing really special about them,  highway=cycleway should be
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24-01-16 13:12, Matthieu Gaillet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below you will find some information about the developing bicycle
>>>>>> highways (or fast cycling routes) a bit everywhere in the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering if anything was foreseen to tag such highways ? If
>>>>>> not,
>>>>>> what's the best place to discuss this, since I guess this should be
>>>>>> uniform at world level ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your answer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthieu (sur iMobile)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Début du message transféré :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Une recherche, évidemment loin d’être exhaustive, m’a fourni une
>>>>>>> première liste de ce que l’ECF (European Cyclists’ Federation)
>>>>>>> dénomme
>>>>>>> les  */Fast Cycling Routes/** :*
>>>>>>> •  CH: Velobahn (Schaffhouse), TransAgglo (Fribourg), .
>>>>>>> •  DE: Radschnellwege  (Ruhr, Berlin, Frankfurt, Heidelberg, München,
>>>>>>> …)
>>>>>>> •  DK: Supercykelstier (Kobenhavn)
>>>>>>> •  FR: REV, Réseau Express Vélo, Autoroute à vélos (Toulouse),
>>>>>>> Vélostras (Strasbourg), Grenoble, Paris,
>>>>>>> •  NL: SnelleFietsroutes, Snelbinder
>>>>>>>          Image en ligne
>>>>>>> •  SV: Supercykelväg (Malmoe)
>>>>>>> •  UK: Cycle Superhighways (London)
>>>>>>> •  US: California Cycleway(1896)
>>>>>>> •  VL: Fietsostrades (réalisations ; projets dans les 5 provinces)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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