[OSM-talk-be] Bicycle highways

[Matthieu Gaillet]

Hi, thanks all for your answers.

I agree with Jo and Sander : there is something missing in the current way of describing those bicycle highways which are indeed very specific in their realisation (exactly like a car highway) and their use (connecting cities). 

I don’t agree with Sander when talking about getting freed of the icn, ncn and rcn network tags : they are extremely widely used and useful for rendered like http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/ <http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/> to render the relations accurately. I don’t really see your point here.

However, before talking about relation, I think a specific value should be introduced for the highway key : “cyclehighway" for instance. This would help the renderer to show those infrastructures differently than the usual “cycleway” (the infamous "piste cyclable” that usually sounds like an insult for most serious bikers).

This is however something that has to be discussed on a higher level than Belgium. Where is this place ?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this.

Matthieu


> On 24 Jan 2016, at 17:36, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Between Leuven and Brussels they are marked in a way that is verifiable on the ground.
> 
> We need a separate 'network' tag for them though, and it would be nice to see they get rendered on the specialised bicycle maps.
> 
> Jo
> 
> 2016-01-24 15:31 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere <sanderd17 at gmail.com <mailto:sanderd17 at gmail.com>>:
> Bicycle highways are more like bicycle routes than different highway types.
> 
> They are a route specifically made for commuting, connecting residential area with some work center in a rather straight line.
> 
> As such, I think those could get tagged as a cycle route with some specific sub tags (like a special network).
> 
> The question is though: are they verifiable on the ground. Or is it just that European list naming them. It should only be tagged when you see something on the ground that you can relate to bicycle highways.
> 
> Regards,
> Sander
> 
> 2016-01-24 15:00 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be <mailto:glenn at byte-consult.be>>:
> Nothing really special about them,  highway=cycleway should be appropriate.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> On 24-01-16 13:12, Matthieu Gaillet wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Below you will find some information about the developing bicycle
> > highways (or fast cycling routes) a bit everywhere in the world.
> >
> > I was wondering if anything was foreseen to tag such highways ? If not,
> > what's the best place to discuss this, since I guess this should be
> > uniform at world level ?
> >
> > Thanks for your answer,
> >
> > Matthieu (sur iMobile)
> >
> > Début du message transféré :
> >>
> >> Une recherche, évidemment loin d’être exhaustive, m’a fourni une
> >> première liste de ce que l’ECF (European Cyclists’ Federation) dénomme
> >> les  */Fast Cycling Routes/** :*
> >> •  CH: Velobahn (Schaffhouse), TransAgglo (Fribourg), .
> >> •  DE: Radschnellwege  (Ruhr, Berlin, Frankfurt, Heidelberg, München, …)
> >> •  DK: Supercykelstier (Kobenhavn)
> >> •  FR: REV, Réseau Express Vélo, Autoroute à vélos (Toulouse),
> >> Vélostras (Strasbourg), Grenoble, Paris,
> >> •  NL: SnelleFietsroutes, Snelbinder
> >>         Image en ligne
> >> •  SV: Supercykelväg (Malmoe)
> >> •  UK: Cycle Superhighways (London)
> >> •  US: California Cycleway(1896)
> >> •  VL: Fietsostrades (réalisations ; projets dans les 5 provinces)
> >
> >
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