[OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? -- fietsparking

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Fri Jul 1 16:17:02 UTC 2016


De fietsparking op de foto is gemapped [1]

amenity=bicycle_parking
bicycle_parking=stands
capacity=10
covered=no
fee=no

genoeg detail ? :-)

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/424058482

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Philippe Casteleyn
<philippecasteleyn at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ik vind fietsparkings belangrijk.
> Alhoewel het er naar mijn zin te veel zijn om zelf te mappen en ze wel
> ergens in een database moeten staan.
>
> Bij een tweede passage fotografeer ik ze wel.
>
> Ph Casteleyn
> Dahliastraat 16
> 2800 Mechelen
> animals.slippers.loaders
> gsm 0486 516261
> Ctrl+v
>
>
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>> 1. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?
>> (Gerard Vanderveken)
>> 2. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? (Marc Gemis)
>> 3. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? (Jo)
>> 4. Re: What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ? (Marc Gemis)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 14:53:36 +0200
>> From: Gerard Vanderveken <Ghia at ghia.eu>
>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?
>> Message-ID: <577667D0.4080702 at ghia.eu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Checking on the map, learns me that most items are already thoroughly
>> mapped (street cabinets, bins, advertising, lanes, crossings,...)
>> Things lacking, but not derivable from the photo are the division of
>> buildings and the corresponding addresses of the buildings.
>> IMO addresses are of more importance then the little street furniture
>> and should get more priority in mapping.
>> Not meaning, that I don't appreciate these mappings, every added object
>> counts!
>>
>> When you have lot of time, you could also map the separated footwalk and
>> bicycle paths, but this is advanced stuff, and I don't recommend it, as
>> it is not so easy to make a correct separation and have all options for
>> connections and resulting in no foot etc on the main highway itself, so
>> that routing programs for bike and foot will always select the correct
>> paths. If not done well, it makes more clutter then making things real
>> or clear.
>> It seems these paths are already good and sufficient tagged in the map.
>>
>> So, in short, at first sight, not much extra to map from the photo.
>> (I assume the sign to TIA is simply a direction and not part of a
>> (tourist) route, which would imply a missing relation for some bicycle
>> route/network)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gerard.
>>
>> Marc Gemis wrote:
>>
>> >I wonder whether we could learn to see/map more by looking at each
>> >other's survey pictures. Would it allow novices to "see more" ? Let's
>> >try out
>> >I know the mailing list does not allow to include pictures, so you
>> >have to do it with a link
>> >
>> >What could/would you map when you look at [1] ? What would you
>> >investigate further ?
>> >
>> >Feel free to answer in French/German/English or Dutch
>> >
>> >p.s. Feel free to look at the other pictures at the site [2] and map
>> >anything you want :-) Under the picture you'll find a (i) which shows
>> >a map when you click it
>> >
>> >
>> >---- Nederlands ----
>> >
>> >Ik vraag me af of we van elkaar kunnen leren als we kijken naar de
>> >foto's die we maken tijdens een survey ? Zou het helpen om
>> >(beginnende) mappers meer te leren zien ? Laat ons het eens
>> >uitproberen. Jammer genoeg laat de mailing list niet toe om foto's toe
>> >te voegen, dus moet je het met een link stellen
>> >
>> >Wat zou je kunnen mappen, of wat map je gewoonlijk als je [1] bekijkt
>> >? Wat zou je van nader bij gaan bekijken ?
>> >
>> >
>> >p.s. Het staat je vrij om naar de andere foto's op de site [2] te
>> >kijken en om het even wat te mappen dat je erop ziet :-) Onder de foto
>> >staat een (i), als je daarop klikt, zie je een kaartje.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >[1]
>> > https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g/0/O/DSC_3228.jpg
>> >[2] gallery:
>> > https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:31:46 +0200
>> From: Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>
>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> I know I mapped the place in detail, but I hoped people would mention
>> what they would map without looking at the map :-)
>>
>> I stopped mapping house numbers ( I have collected more than 20.000 by
>> hand according to Pascal Neis :-) ), as they are imported via CRAB at
>> the moment and maybe later this year via a GRB import (with the
>> buildings).
>> That's why I turned to other stuff.
>>
>> I've heard pro's and con's for separate sidewalks & cycleways. I don't
>> separate them as long as there is no physical barrier (hedge, guard
>> rail, ditch,...)
>> I'll try to map sidewalk=... or cycleway=... on the road though.
>>
>> I'll have a closer look at the TIA sign
>>
>> m.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <Ghia at ghia.eu> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Checking on the map, learns me that most items are already thoroughly
>> > mapped
>> > (street cabinets, bins, advertising, lanes, crossings,...)
>> > Things lacking, but not derivable from the photo are the division of
>> > buildings and the corresponding addresses of the buildings.
>> > IMO addresses are of more importance then the little street furniture
>> > and
>> > should get more priority in mapping.
>> > Not meaning, that I don't appreciate these mappings, every added object
>> > counts!
>> >
>> > When you have lot of time, you could also map the separated footwalk and
>> > bicycle paths, but this is advanced stuff, and I don't recommend it, as
>> > it
>> > is not so easy to make a correct separation and have all options for
>> > connections and resulting in no foot etc on the main highway itself, so
>> > that
>> > routing programs for bike and foot will always select the correct paths.
>> > If
>> > not done well, it makes more clutter then making things real or clear.
>> > It seems these paths are already good and sufficient tagged in the map.
>> >
>> > So, in short, at first sight, not much extra to map from the photo.
>> > (I assume the sign to TIA is simply a direction and not part of a
>> > (tourist)
>> > route, which would imply a missing relation for some bicycle
>> > route/network)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Gerard.
>> >
>> > Marc Gemis wrote:
>> >
>> >> I wonder whether we could learn to see/map more by looking at each
>> >> other's survey pictures. Would it allow novices to "see more" ? Let's
>> >> try out
>> >> I know the mailing list does not allow to include pictures, so you
>> >> have to do it with a link
>> >>
>> >> What could/would you map when you look at [1] ? What would you
>> >> investigate further ?
>> >>
>> >> Feel free to answer in French/German/English or Dutch
>> >>
>> >> p.s. Feel free to look at the other pictures at the site [2] and map
>> >> anything you want :-) Under the picture you'll find a (i) which shows
>> >> a map when you click it
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---- Nederlands ----
>> >>
>> >> Ik vraag me af of we van elkaar kunnen leren als we kijken naar de
>> >> foto's die we maken tijdens een survey ? Zou het helpen om
>> >> (beginnende) mappers meer te leren zien ? Laat ons het eens
>> >> uitproberen. Jammer genoeg laat de mailing list niet toe om foto's toe
>> >> te voegen, dus moet je het met een link stellen
>> >>
>> >> Wat zou je kunnen mappen, of wat map je gewoonlijk als je [1] bekijkt
>> >> ? Wat zou je van nader bij gaan bekijken ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> p.s. Het staat je vrij om naar de andere foto's op de site [2] te
>> >> kijken en om het even wat te mappen dat je erop ziet :-) Onder de foto
>> >> staat een (i), als je daarop klikt, zie je een kaartje.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> >> https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g/0/O/DSC_3228.jpg
>> >> [2] gallery:
>> >> https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g
>> >>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:43:26 +0200
>> From: Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>
>> To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?
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>> They put that sign there, so I'd remember how to get to my aunt's house.
>> She's Spanish...
>>
>> What about the buttons on the traffic lights? And in how much detail to
>> map
>> those traffic lights?
>>
>> Gerard, addresses are indeed important. Glenn needs beta testers for
>> adding
>> them from CRAB/AGIV. I'm rather busy with improving JOSM to map public
>> transport, so I'm not getting around to it to test his work, but he's
>> making great progress.
>> Soon, it should become possible for everybody who uses JOSM to map those
>> public transport routes and if they get broken by changes to the
>> underlying
>> infrastructure, to figure out how to fix them with as little effort as
>> possible.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-07-01 15:31 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > I know I mapped the place in detail, but I hoped people would mention
>> > what they would map without looking at the map :-)
>> >
>> > I stopped mapping house numbers ( I have collected more than 20.000 by
>> > hand according to Pascal Neis :-) ), as they are imported via CRAB at
>> > the moment and maybe later this year via a GRB import (with the
>> > buildings).
>> > That's why I turned to other stuff.
>> >
>> > I've heard pro's and con's for separate sidewalks & cycleways. I don't
>> > separate them as long as there is no physical barrier (hedge, guard
>> > rail, ditch,...)
>> > I'll try to map sidewalk=... or cycleway=... on the road though.
>> >
>> > I'll have a closer look at the TIA sign
>> >
>> > m.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <Ghia at ghia.eu> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Checking on the map, learns me that most items are already thoroughly
>> > mapped
>> > > (street cabinets, bins, advertising, lanes, crossings,...)
>> > > Things lacking, but not derivable from the photo are the division of
>> > > buildings and the corresponding addresses of the buildings.
>> > > IMO addresses are of more importance then the little street furniture
>> > > and
>> > > should get more priority in mapping.
>> > > Not meaning, that I don't appreciate these mappings, every added
>> > > object
>> > > counts!
>> > >
>> > > When you have lot of time, you could also map the separated footwalk
>> > > and
>> > > bicycle paths, but this is advanced stuff, and I don't recommend it,
>> > > as
>> > it
>> > > is not so easy to make a correct separation and have all options for
>> > > connections and resulting in no foot etc on the main highway itself,
>> > > so
>> > that
>> > > routing programs for bike and foot will always select the correct
>> > > paths.
>> > If
>> > > not done well, it makes more clutter then making things real or clear.
>> > > It seems these paths are already good and sufficient tagged in the
>> > > map.
>> > >
>> > > So, in short, at first sight, not much extra to map from the photo.
>> > > (I assume the sign to TIA is simply a direction and not part of a
>> > (tourist)
>> > > route, which would imply a missing relation for some bicycle
>> > route/network)
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Gerard.
>> > >
>> > > Marc Gemis wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I wonder whether we could learn to see/map more by looking at each
>> > >> other's survey pictures. Would it allow novices to "see more" ? Let's
>> > >> try out
>> > >> I know the mailing list does not allow to include pictures, so you
>> > >> have to do it with a link
>> > >>
>> > >> What could/would you map when you look at [1] ? What would you
>> > >> investigate further ?
>> > >>
>> > >> Feel free to answer in French/German/English or Dutch
>> > >>
>> > >> p.s. Feel free to look at the other pictures at the site [2] and map
>> > >> anything you want :-) Under the picture you'll find a (i) which shows
>> > >> a map when you click it
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ---- Nederlands ----
>> > >>
>> > >> Ik vraag me af of we van elkaar kunnen leren als we kijken naar de
>> > >> foto's die we maken tijdens een survey ? Zou het helpen om
>> > >> (beginnende) mappers meer te leren zien ? Laat ons het eens
>> > >> uitproberen. Jammer genoeg laat de mailing list niet toe om foto's
>> > >> toe
>> > >> te voegen, dus moet je het met een link stellen
>> > >>
>> > >> Wat zou je kunnen mappen, of wat map je gewoonlijk als je [1] bekijkt
>> > >> ? Wat zou je van nader bij gaan bekijken ?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> p.s. Het staat je vrij om naar de andere foto's op de site [2] te
>> > >> kijken en om het even wat te mappen dat je erop ziet :-) Onder de
>> > >> foto
>> > >> staat een (i), als je daarop klikt, zie je een kaartje.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> [1]
>> > >>
>> >
>> > https://photos.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g/0/O/DSC_3228.jpg
>> > >> [2] gallery:
>> > >> https://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2016/2016-06-09-Wilrijk/i-b8Xdd5g
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Talk-be mailing list
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>> > >
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>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:49:37 +0200
>> From: Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>
>> To: Jo Hannes <WinFixIT at gmail.com>, OpenStreetMap Belgium
>> <talk-be at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] What could you map ? / Wat kan je mappen ?
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>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > What about the buttons on the traffic lights? And in how much detail to
>> > map
>> > those traffic lights?
>>
>> O, nice one !
>> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing you could
>> use "button_operated=yes"
>>
>> m
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