[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Toll for trucks +3,5ton

[Marc Gemis]

The virtual glasses need a database (or many database) with all
information they have to display. Those databases can be run by
government, large corporations or  communities.

Furthermore OSM is used for more things than just (car) navigation.
What if a real-estate site wants to show you all houses that are
located in a living street ? Or that are located within 5 kms of a
school and a supermarket ? You need to have a database with speed
limits, road classifications, POIs, etc. Will this database come from
OSM or the government ?  Is this the same database that is driving the
virtual glasses ? Are the license fees for this centralized database
so high that there is room for free community driven databases ? I
don't know (I cannot predict the future :-) ) but there is some
similarity with the current situation, not ? Why map for OSM when
there is Google Maps ?


So perhaps there is room for a non-empty OSM database in that world as well

m

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Jasper Michels <jaspermichels at gmail.com> wrote:
> ok, i agree.
>
> But as a side note. I predict the future.
>
> 30 year later, the databases of the OSM-community will run empty. (If  you
> keep true to these rules)
> No more speed limit panes, no more street or place names,...
> All running around with our virtual glasses, and our semi automated cars.
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/netherlands-tech-autos-idUSL5N0OX3S420140616
>
> Case Closed.
>
>
> 2016-03-17 14:42 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be>:
>>
>> Hi Jasper,
>>
>> The amount is dependant on the type of vehicle euronorm, so you cannot
>> even store this in OSM as it depends on external factors.
>>
>> It would be a bad idea, even if it wasn't as it is prone to change
>> overtime.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>> On 16-03-16 20:35, Jasper Michels wrote:
>> > Thank you for the answer Marc and Sander.
>> >
>> > Would have loved to specify the amount, but Sander has a point.
>> > We can't verify this by survey.
>> > Will use toll:hgv=yes
>> >
>> > 2016-03-16 20:50 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:marc.gemis at gmail.com>>:
>> >
>> >     There is a toll-tag [1]. That page recommends toll=no, toll:hgv=yes
>> >     Is this sufficient ? I don't know whether you want to specify the
>> >     amount as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >     regards
>> >
>> >     m
>> >
>> >     [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:toll
>> >
>> >     On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Jasper Michels
>> >     <jaspermichels at gmail.com <mailto:jaspermichels at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >         Hi all,
>> >
>> >         Starting from 1/04/2016 trucks will have to pay toll on the
>> >         Belgian roads.
>> >         http://www.viapass.be/en/about-viapass/viapass-for-hgvs/
>> >
>> >         The amount of toll depends from these factors:
>> >         -Type of street
>> >         -Euro-class Engine
>> >         -Weight
>> >         -Kilometres travelled (GPS driven)
>> >
>> >         Is there a possibility to map this? And how?
>> >         How to make the difference of euro classes, and weight?
>> >
>> >         Could be very handy for apps like Osmand with their truck
>> >         navigation.
>> >         Doesn't seem a lot of work also.
>> >
>> >
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