[OSM-talk-be] Some information about Nominatim for addresses in Brussels

[Glenn Plas]

So, we are talking about this data : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/iCN ?

the addressed way's (e.g. buildings ) need to match the streetname they
belong to.

Structure is always a great thing for data, so it doesn't matter which one.

Glenn


On 28-09-16 11:08, Marc Gemis wrote:
> The order on name can be random. But once you chose e.g. FR - NL, all
> the addr:street tags for the addresses in that street have to follow
> FR - NL. For another street you can take another order.
> 
> This weird rule of FR - NL or NL - FR as name is something from the
> Belgium community. You cannot expect that all tools honour this. How
> can a tool know that in this small place on earth the name field is a
> concatenation of two names? By using FR - NL as name, you tell all the
> tools that the name of the street is "FR - NL". So you have to use
> that name everywhere you refer to the name of the street, which means
> the field addr:street has to be "FR - NL" as well.
> You do not use different names for addr:street and name for roads in
> Flanders, do you ?
> 
> IMHO, this is not mapping for the tool, but is mapping in a consistent
> way. Once the order is determined for a street, we also agreed not to
> change it, so once cleaned up, there is no longer an issue.
> 
> But if people don't care about the first impression people get when
> looking up an address in Brussels, fine for me.
> But it is already bad enough that when you look for Zutphen in a Dutch
> browser, you find "Zütphen".
> All those little things might turn people away from OSM... :-(
> 
> m.
> 
> p.s. alternatively, you could use an associatedStreet-relation to
> solve this problem. But this is not one of lonvia's preferred
> solutions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 10:18 AM, joost schouppe
> <joost.schouppe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand correctly, but isn't the order of languages in the
>> general name tags supposed to be random (for political reasons)? If so,
>> shouldn't Nominatim be able to deal with this randomness?
>> It sounds a bit strange to expect the data to follow the same randomness in
>> the name and addr:street for different objects. Then upon every edit of a
>> new object, you would have to check which randomly selected order of names
>> is present on the street itself.
>>
>> To me, it looks a bit like "mapping for the tool" if we do clean this up.
>> But I might be missing the point.
>>
>>
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