[OSM-talk-be] Multilingual names

[Gerard Vanderveken]

The strreets of Sint-Genesius-Rode that pop-up in your list, eg 23095320 
Schildknaaplaan, are actually the right ones.
As they are in the Flemisch region, their names have to start with the 
nl part.
This is intented and not an error.

Many others in Sint-Genesius-Rode are wrongly named as eg Avenue du Golf 
- Golflaan id 291970858

The ones that pop up in the list with a single nl name are also correct, 
because they are located in Hoeilaart.

Saw someone called Jakka, changing names 
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41497660#map=14/50.7818/4.4217> 
in the wrong direction.
Have sent him a PM.

Regards,
Gerard

Glenn Plas wrote:

>Since I could not resist fixing this...
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>>As for the French-Dutch. I think I added a name once to a path in
>>Zonienwoud, in the other order. Can't find it right now. Perhaps
>>someone corrected my vandalism :-)
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>I fixed the problem in de tool and ran analysis on the export, I
>discovered 2 small issues with moterway_junction having a name instead
>of destination, after fixing those 2 I managed to fully parse the results,
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>The remarks of Gerard also pop up albeit a bit cryptic (saying it's
>missing the names), that's because it doesn't know where the borders are
>of the multi-linguistic zones.  The tool is not for beginners but
>seasoned mappers who want enhanced validation outside of JOSM
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>here is a sample of those validations.  Some streets are very
>difficult(like Chaussée de Waterloo for example) , the readme of the
>tool talks in depth about those problems, read it first if you want to fix:
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>>[id:15804224] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève Pittoresque - Schilderachtigedreef' <> 'Drève Pittoresque - Schilderachtige dreef'
>>[id:23095320] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue de l'Écuyer - Schildknaaplaan' <> 'Schildknaaplaan - Avenue de l'Écuyer'
>>[id:23095323] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue du Faucon - Valkenlaan' <> 'Valkenlaan - Avenue du Faucon'
>>[id:23104866] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue des Érables - Ahornlaan' <> 'Ahornlaan - Avenue des Érables'
>>[id:23104868] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue des Érables - Ahornlaan' <> 'Ahornlaan - Avenue des Érables'
>>[id:23104870] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue des Cèdres - Cederlaan' <> 'Cederlaan - Avenue des Cèdres'
>>[id:23104903] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue des Tilleuls - Lindenlaan' <> 'Lindenlaan - Avenue des Tilleuls'
>>[id:23706462] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue du Manoir - Ridderhoflaan' <> 'Ridderhoflaan - Avenue du Manoir'
>>[id:24450953] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève Saint Corneille - Sint-Corneliusdreef' <> 'Drève Saint Corneille'
>>[id:26322550] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drèves des Renards - Vossendreef' <> 'Drève des Renards - Vossendreef'
>>[id:27849646] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Sentiers des Muguets - Meibloemenvotpad' <> 'Sentiers des Muguets - Meibloemenvoetpad'
>>[id:27851213] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève de la Longue Queue - Langestaartdreef' <> 'Langestaartdreef'
>>[id:29556505] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue Brassine - Brassinelaan' <> 'Brassinelaan - Avenue Brassine'
>>[id:31022009] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue du Crépuscule - Schemerlaan' <> 'Schemerlaan - Avenue du Crépuscule'
>>[id:33127966] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue Dubois - Duboislaan' <> 'Duboislaan'
>>[id:33128070] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Chaussée de La Hulpe - Terhulpsesteenweg' <> 'Terhulpsesteenweg'
>>[id:35096633] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Sentier de Waterloo - Waterloopad' <> 'Waterloopad - Sentier de Waterloo'
>>[id:35096634] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Sentier de Waterloo - Waterloopad' <> 'Waterloopad - Sentier de Waterloo'
>>[id:35400616] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève de la Longue Queue - Langestaartdreef' <> 'Langestaartdreef'
>>[id:35465111] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève Joséphine - Josephinedreef' <> 'Josephinedreef'
>>[id:39076318] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Avenue du Manoir - Ridderhoflaan' <> 'Ridderhoflaan - Avenue du Manoir'
>>[id:39327745] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Chemin des Tumuli - Tumuliweg' <> 'Tumuliweg'
>>[id:39443239] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Chaussée de Waterloo - Waterloosesteenweg' <> 'Waterloosesteenweg - Chaussée de Waterloo'
>>[id:39723650] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève Saint Corneille - Sint-Corneliusdreef' <> 'Sint-Corneliusdreef'
>>[id:39723653] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Drève Joséphine - Josephinedreef' <> 'Drève Joséphine'
>>.... (and more)
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>>Found deep scan match (levenshtein) 'Rue de la Sapinière - Dennebosstraat' [id:2352421079] vs. 'Rue de la Sapinère - Dennebosstraat' [id:27882771]. (Fix the minor spell differences)
>>Found deep scan match (levenshtein) 'Rue de la Sapinière - Dennebosstraat' [id:2352421085] vs. 'Rue de la Sapinère - Dennebosstraat' [id:27882771]. (Fix the minor spell differences)
>>... (and more)
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>>[id:89137923] Difference between name:fr + name:nl vs. the name: 'Piscine David Lloyd - Zwembad David Lloyd' <> 'Piscine David Lloyd'
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>-> pretty obvious what the problem here is
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>It shows this as well:
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>>Verify Osm_id: [id:436061301] - Missing matching street name - is street loaded ? - : 'Ridderhoflaan'
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>That usually means it found houses with a name but the street fell off
>hence, it can't find a street with that name in the osm file (an
>export/edge problem) but it can be a real problem as well, it takes
>common sense to decide what it really is.
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>So, conclusion is :  there are still some streets who have it reversed (
>NL - FR )  , you can use the OSM ID's to find them
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>Glenn
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