[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] Brasserie

[Thomas Bertels]

Reposting my message from tagging:
> Based on https://www.lemoniteur.be/documentation/horeca-135.html it 
> seems that a brasserie is a café that serves simple food, and hence 
> the manager doesn't need to be a professional cook:
>> _Café_
>> Vous ne devez pas avoir un accès à la profession Restaurateurs et 
>> Traiteurs-organisateurs de banquets à condition de n'offrir que de la 
>> petite restauration (potages, croques et toutes sortes de toasts, 
>> croquettes, à l’exception de croquettes de pommes de terre, 
>> vol-au-vent, boudins noirs et boudins blancs, brochettes grilles, 
>> pains fourrés, hamburgers, hot-dogs, pittas et croissants, pâtes, 
>> pizzas, quiches ou autres tartes sales, salades froides, assiettes 
>> anglaises, œufs prépares, desserts (notamment des crêpes, des glaces, 
>> des gaufres, des gâteaux, des brioches, des yaourts et des 
>> milk-shakes). Ces repas légers ne peuvent être servis qu’avec du pain.
> This category applies too to the "restaurants" that serve only pizzas 
> (pizzerias), pitas, hamburgers... except french fries ("à l’exception 
> de croquettes de pommes de terre").
>
> Currently, amenity=pub food=yes seems to be the most used.

I've noticed that some places are called "Restaurant-Brasserie", and 
those don't just serve simple foods, but also classic restaurant foods.

So we should probably differentiate them based on that (at least in 
Belgium):

- The "Brasserie" ones could be tagged as amenity=pub food=yes (although 
pub has an Anglo-Saxon connotation, which is to be expected given the UK 
origin of osm).

- The "Restaurant-Brasserie" ones could be tagged as amenity=restaurant, 
but something is needed to specify that it's opened not just during 
classic hours (or do we just always add opening_hours?) and that we can 
drink without eating (so basically that it's also a café).

In addition to brasserie, bistro and taverne, there's also izakaya 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izakaya> in Japan. So I guess all of 
these could be tagged as amenity=pub food=yes?

Le 8/08/2017 à 19:12, Glenn Plas a écrit :
> cuisine described the food served, not the restaurant type.
>
> The wiki is quite clear on that
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cuisine
>
> So I quite agree with Marc that putting brasserie as this key's value is
> not a description of the food being served.
>
> Glenn
>
>> I'm not sure whether I like the cuisine=brasserie. Do all the
>> brasseries serve the same type food ? Can't you have a brasserie that
>> is only serving fish dishes, or meat or vegetarian or a combination ?
>> Can you expect the same food from a brasserie in Belgium and France ?
>>
>> as for amenity=brasserie (and amenity=tavern) I fear that is a useless
>> tag, as long as the data consumers will not start using it.
>> What about the Danish Kro ? should they use amenity=tavern as well ?
>>
>> Furthermore what is the difference between a brasserie, bistro,
>> taverne, eetcafe ? (I see Thomas has an explanation for brasserie)
>>
>> m.
>>
>
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