[OSM-talk-be] Mapping disaperead vicinal paths

[Matthieu Gaillet]

Hi,

Recently an user mapped a set of disappeared “communal” or "vicinal” ways. By disappeared I mean they are physically absolutely not existent on the ground. They were either plowed or constructions were built right on them.

I believe it goes against the general rule that states that one might only map what’s visible on the field. Additionally the mapping itself was poorly done and the source mentioned was not relevant.

Using the tag [ <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trail_visibility>trail]_visibility <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trail_visibility>=no <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:trail_visibility%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1> is not an option here since the user decided to map a unmaintained track road (with width = 4m !) that doesn’t offer such option.

He denied reverting the changeset, arguing that mapping those paths was a way to put pressure on the Commune and the owner in a discussion about the openness and accessibility of surrounding paths for the general public. He promised to delete the date once the case will be closed.

> Les sentiers et chemins que j'ai repris sur OSM sont légalement toujours existants et personne n'est en droit d'empêcher quiconque de les utiliser, de les réhabiliter ou de les débroussailler... c'est une façon de mettre la pression sur le riverain... dès que des alternatives auront été créées et un bon accord conclu, j'effacerai les données au profit des alternatives qui auront été proposées.

The changesets : 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927383
 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927383>https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927894 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927894>
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927825 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927825>
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927566 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88927566>


What do you think ? I believe that’s not a good way of doing things (I don’t believe in maptivism in this situation) but can’t really find a clear position of the community about this particular case.

I don’t want to start a fight with that user because he’s really doing a great job at preserving the right of use of those heritage vicinal ways by confronting the Communes against those unfair owners. I would like to show him some string arguments to explain him why his initiative is not good for the community (If that’s the case).

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 
	
Matthieu Gaillet

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