[OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Mon Feb 10 15:35:57 UTC 2020


Hi,

I used Overpass API to generate a list of unique street names in the
Brussels Region:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MsII28mSORExmGhxAFPCON4GK3Zpg-BUbvy8eauy63I/edit?usp=sharing

It is easy to find streets that are not mapped entirely bilingually. I
should have included the id and then created an easy way to link back to
JOSM. Not sure why I didn't think of that before. I might still do it, but
then using the associatedStreet relations, which most of the streets in
Brussels still seem to have. (I'm glad for this, I know it's not a popular
one)

I think we should create wikidata items for the streets themselves as well.

About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a node
somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that node to
Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis data to
source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not using any
nodes of the street itself. I do try to link back to openstreetmap (one of
the ways or associatedStreet relation) in the reference url field.

I agree that if we were to add full polylines based on all the nodes of the
street, there would be an issue, but I don't think anyone wants to do that.

Jo

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:25 AM Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:

> As I wrote on Riot, I do hope this event will not copy geocoded data
> from OSM into Wikidata, I think this violates
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline
> Please let me know if I'm wrong.
>
> regards
>
> m.
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 12:08 PM Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I did this for one street in Evere:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history
> >
> > Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I
> created a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself.
> Things are complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this
> street also had an old name.
> >
> > Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand?
> >
> > Polyglot
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe <Seppe.Santens at stad.gent>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi community,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium
> want to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to
> change the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM
> data linked to wikidata.
> >>
> >> Register here to join the mapping effort:
> https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747.
> And let us know if you can help with the framework.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> more info:
> https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please spread the word!
> >>
> >> -Twitter:
> https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538
> >> -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/
> >> -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Seppe
> >>
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