[OSM-talk-be] #equalstreetnames

[Karel Adams]

Marc,

In zoverre ga ik wel graag met u mee, en dat schreef ik eigenlijk ook al:

Het inzamelen van data doen we sowieso al, en bij het filteren en 
catalogeren van informatie zijn we graag van dienst. De interpretatie 
die daar dan aan gegeven wordt is politiek, maar dat gaat ons niet meer 
aan, inderdaad.

Alleen vraag ik me af hoe enige automatisatie ooit gaat kunnen uitmaken 
of "Guido Gezelleplein" of "Gezusters Lovelingplantsoen" of 
"Dendermondse Steenweg" of "Zemst-Laar" naar mannen of naar vrouwen 
verwijzen... Tenzij men een soort "dictionary" opzet die al even veel 
werk vereist als het manueel uitzoeken van iedere straatnaam.

Vr.gr.,

Karel


On 2020-03-03 19:30, Marc Gemis wrote:
> Hello Seppe
>
> thanks a lot for sharing this information.
> I do like the project (despite my comments on obtaining the data
> before the start) because:
>
> - it uses my 2 favourite crowd-sourced open data projects
> - it really requires both projects to create the map
> - Open Street Maps (sic) is not only used as background nor for navigation
> - it brought together 60 people. I do hope they will somehow continue
> to contribute to OSM and/or Wikidata
> - It gave OSM and Wikidata some publicity
>
> As for the criticism on participating in an event that tries to gather
> data on gender inequality in street names.
> I do not see any political statement in that. After all, OSM and
> Wikidata are very natural sources for such events, as, you might have
> guessed it, are open data. If one makes a political statement with
> that,  mapping bicycle parking could be seen as supporting anti-car
> policies as well.
>
> I assume mappers are often activists or at least passionate for
> certain features, be it slow roads, airfields, AEDs, historical
> buildings, power infrastructure etc. We are often open data and open
> source activists as well.
> Recently, on the tagging mailing list, you see requests for tags to
> map free drinking water, free refills, object sharing, food sharing,
> etc. All those are somehow driven by activism. Is that wrong? Not in
> my opinion, it enriches the OSM project. If we would only try to mimic
> Google Maps by focussing on navigation and shops (for advertising), we
> could as well stop now.
>
> So thank you for setting up the project and let's hope it will hellp
> OSM grow further in the future.
>
> regards
>
> m.
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 12:39 PM Santens Seppe <Seppe.Santens at stad.gent> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Today, #equalstreetnames was launched, something Open Knowledge / OSM Belgium (among others) can be very proud of if you ask me. The project combines OSM and Wikidata (+ extra data crowdsourced during a workshop) to make this map: https://equalstreetnames.brussels/ (stunning isn’t it?). More info on why an how can be found in this blogpost: https://be.okfn.org/2020/03/03/equalstreetnames-brussels-launch-of-open-data-visualisation/
>>
>>
>>
>> The project already got some nice media coverage, e.g. https://www.bruzz.be/samenleving/nauwelijks-brusselse-straten-naar-vrouwen-vernoemd-trage-inhaalbeweging-2020-03-03 and https://www.rtbf.be/info/dossier/les-grenades/detail_combattre-le-sexisme-en-rebaptisant-les-rues-de-bruxelles?id=10446433
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, you can help spread the word, e.g. by sharing
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/photos/a.376589912722798/1030439804004469/?type=3&theater
>>
>> https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1234754767756386304
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/open-knowledge-belgium_opendata-activity-6640521647684100096-GvRU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Seppe
>>
>>
>>
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