[OSM-talk-be] tagging conventions

[Jan Cnops]

Hi,
An Overpass Turbo query shows that there are quite some ways tagged as
higway=track and tracktype=grade1, so definitely paved.
In a somewhat wider perspective: I recently saw a road retagged to
highway=service. In the past that road had been mapped at various times
as highway=cycleway, highway=path and highway=track with
tracktype=grade1.
This kind of retagging happens rather often, and it shows there is a
problem there: it is clear that it makes the map less useful than it
could be. If mappers are confused about what a way should be tagged
like, users will be confused what a certain tag means for the road.
Isn't it time to clean up things?
The problem seems to lie with those roads which are important for
cyclists: smaller roads with limited or no motorised traffic.
I have no idea what the proper procedure is to change the Wiki, as some
form of consensus is obviously needed.  Does one start with an RFC on
this mailing list, or something like that?
Season greetings,
JanFi
Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be schreef op za 02-01-2021 om 09:00 [+0000]:
>                 
> Hi,
> 
> A reminder to everyone: as far as I can see this convention hasn't
> changed...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> StijnRR
> 
>             
>                                                                      
>                    On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 05:59:16 PM GMT+1,
> Ben Laenen <benlaenen at gmail.com>
> wrote:                                
>                 
>                 I'm sure you can look through this mailing list's
> history and find all kinds of 
> discussion about it in the past...
> 
> Long story short: the unpaved thing was more or less the original
> usage, then 
> it was changed in some other countries which was set as the
> international 
> definition and in Belgium we didn't change it.
> 
> Personally I think the difference unpaved <-> paved for track <->
> other road 
> types makes much more sense in Belgium, and also much more objective.
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 22 December 2015 08:37:35 joost schouppe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I was looking at this page:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/
> Highways
> > 
> > And I saw only unpaved roads are supposed to be tagged as track.
> I've been
> > seeing quite a few rural roads which only allow agricultural
> vehicles and
> > only lead to fields. They look to me essentially as paved tracks.
> In most
> > of the world (i.e. outside of Europe) what the road is used for
> trumps road
> > quality when it comes to classification.
> > 
> > Shouldn't this "Unpaved roads with traces of motor traffic or
> accessible to
> > motor traffic" be replaced by something like "Paths which show use
> of
> > occasional motor traffic, or are designed to do so and that don't
> prohibit
> > such use. Generally unpaved and used to access forests or
> agricultural
> > fields."
> 
> 
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