[OSM-talk-be] tagging conventions

Sun Jan 3 16:15:35 UTC 2021

It is a discussion that comes back once in a while and I agree that having
a separate Belgian meaning for a very common tag as track makes no sense.
I'm also following the international wiki in that regard.

wouter

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 7:00 PM s8evq <s8evqq at runbox.com> wrote:

> I was not aware of these national conventions, and therefor also never
> adhered to it. I always used the wiki pages on the different highway types.
> I'm not sure why we would need to differ from the international standards.
> It's already hard enough as is :)
>
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:21:55 +0100, Jan Cnops <jan.cnops at scarlet.be>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > An Overpass Turbo query shows that there are quite some ways tagged as
> > higway=track and tracktype=grade1, so definitely paved.
> > In a somewhat wider perspective: I recently saw a road retagged to
> > highway=service. In the past that road had been mapped at various times
> > as highway=cycleway, highway=path and highway=track with
> > tracktype=grade1.
> > This kind of retagging happens rather often, and it shows there is a
> > problem there: it is clear that it makes the map less useful than it
> > could be. If mappers are confused about what a way should be tagged
> > like, users will be confused what a certain tag means for the road.
> > Isn't it time to clean up things?
> > The problem seems to lie with those roads which are important for
> > cyclists: smaller roads with limited or no motorised traffic.
> > I have no idea what the proper procedure is to change the Wiki, as some
> > form of consensus is obviously needed.  Does one start with an RFC on
> > this mailing list, or something like that?
> > Season greetings,
> > JanFi
> > Stijn Rombauts via Talk-be schreef op za 02-01-2021 om 09:00 [+0000]:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A reminder to everyone: as far as I can see this convention hasn't
> > > changed...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > StijnRR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >                    On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 05:59:16 PM GMT+1,
> > > Ben Laenen <benlaenen at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >                 I'm sure you can look through this mailing list's
> > > history and find all kinds of
> > > discussion about it in the past...
> > >
> > > Long story short: the unpaved thing was more or less the original
> > > usage, then
> > > it was changed in some other countries which was set as the
> > > international
> > > definition and in Belgium we didn't change it.
> > >
> > > Personally I think the difference unpaved <-> paved for track <->
> > > other road
> > > types makes much more sense in Belgium, and also much more objective.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 22 December 2015 08:37:35 joost schouppe wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I was looking at this page:
> > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/
> > > Highways
> > > >
> > > > And I saw only unpaved roads are supposed to be tagged as track.
> > > I've been
> > > > seeing quite a few rural roads which only allow agricultural
> > > vehicles and
> > > > only lead to fields. They look to me essentially as paved tracks.
> > > In most
> > > > of the world (i.e. outside of Europe) what the road is used for
> > > trumps road
> > > > quality when it comes to classification.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't this "Unpaved roads with traces of motor traffic or
> > > accessible to
> > > > motor traffic" be replaced by something like "Paths which show use
> > > of
> > > > occasional motor traffic, or are designed to do so and that don't
> > > prohibit
> > > > such use. Generally unpaved and used to access forests or
> > > agricultural
> > > > fields."
> > >
> > >
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