[OSM-talk-be] How to tag schools? An attempt to create a (belgian) tagging scheme

[Pieter Vander Vennet]

Hello Brice,

Yes, schools have been a mess within OSM. I've been doing my best to 
clean this up as much as possible in the past weeks.

- According to tag-info, there are very little 'school:be' and 
'school:fr'-entries, we can safely ignore them.
- Childcare has become an established tag with 40k entries worldwide. A 
kindergarten has as defining feature that it offers early education too

Kind regards,
Pieter

On 21.06.22 23:41, Brice Maron wrote:
> Just chiming in....
> I stumble upon this , and honestly i also find the situation is a bit 
> of a mess ATM between isced, school=, amenity=... school:BE, school:FR 
> (yes there are a few in belgium), ...
>
> One thing i noticed is that you've noted
> amenity=kindergarten as kleuterschool/Maternelle .. my understanding 
> is that it was more like creche
> and childcare was kinda controversially rejected
>
> how do we stand with that?
>
> Anyway, thanks for the discussion
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> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 21:35, Pieter Vander Vennet 
> <pietervdvn at posteo.net> wrote:
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>     Hi all,
>
>     In the meantime, I did make an update to the tagging of how we can
>     map schools but also tertiary education institutions.
>
>     Furthermore, I also retagged all private playgrounds within school
>     boundaries to 'schoolyard', as this is more appropriate.
>     I'd love if you had a look in your area and would check that
>     *leisure=playground* within a school area is effectively a
>     (public) playground and not schoolyard (speelplaats in Flemish).
>     With this overpass-query
>     <http://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=%5Bout%3Axml%5D%5Btimeout%3A180%5D%3B%0Anwr%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22school%22%5D(%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D)%3B%0Anode(w)%3B%0Ais_in%3B%0Aarea._%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22school%22%5D%3B%0A(nwr(area)%5B%22leisure%22%3D%22playground%22%5D%3B%20node(w)%3B)%3B%0A%0Aout%20meta%3B%0A%3E%3B%0Aout%20meta%20qt%3B&C=51.04431;3.76608;12>,
>     you can easily find them.
>
>     Kind regards,
>     Pieter
>
>     On 14.06.22 18:13, Pieter Vander Vennet wrote:
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     For my work, I'm attempting to get usable school data out of OSM.
>>     Surprisingly, tagging for schools is pretty hard to do as there
>>     is no decent tagging scheme for them.
>>
>>     As school systems wildly vary across the world, it is at this
>>     point near-impossible to come up with a global tagging scheme.
>>     Instead, I'm setting up a tagging scheme for Belgium alone.
>>
>>     With this mailing, I'd like to open the discussion in Belgium on
>>     how these can be tagged.
>>
>>     Please, have a look at the relevant wiki page
>>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Schools>
>>     and join the discussion either there or on this mailing list.
>>
>>     Furthermore, I'm also interested in how well such a theme would
>>     work in other countries. Maybe a small tweak can make this
>>     applicable e.g. in France, the Netherlands or Germany too.
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>     Pieter
>>
>>
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