[Talk-ca] Missing Ways

[Sam Vekemans]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Richard Degelder <rtdegelder at gmail.com>wrote:

> In looking over some areas in the Hamilton ON area I am finding a
> disturbing number of missing ways recently.  Sometimes the way appears in a
> different zoom level but other times no zoom level shows the way.  At times
> there is now a POI, with no description or value, at a point that was part
> of the way.  I have even looked for the past history of the area and cannot
> find anyone to have erased the way either.
>

Most likely thats because RoadMatcher didn't pick it up.  You are welcome to
view the full GeoBaseNRN.osm file and be tracing over in the area your
working on to make it correct, or copy paste those missing ways.

Because the data might be rather old, and Hamilton might have been built up
in the mean time, its probably best to be tracing or copying whatever you
know to be true.


>
> I was even looking with Potlatch and looked for their "UnDelete", "U", for
> the area and nothing shows up for the way either.
>

I wouldn't use potlatch for this kind of editing, it's not possabe to open
up an ,osm file and work with it.  That's what JOSM is for :)  ... but
that's just me.  Potlatch is great for quick edits.


>
> Some examples are:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=43.26924&lon=-79.83494&zoom=17
>
> Here Hillyard does continue north past the intersections with the service
> road and then Ship Street to beyond the POI (Point 288051968)
>
> and
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=43.26924&lon=-79.83494&zoom=17
>
> Here York Road appears intermitently depending on the zoom level you are
> using.
>

Mapnik / OSMrender / and cyclemap are not the complete OSM map, when using
JOSM you can see everying :) ... it takes a while for those trusty servers
to render every zoom level all over the planet :-)


>
> I am wondering if others have noticed the same things happening in other
> regions and areas.  I am unaware of the reason for these deletions and not
> even certain when they occurred.
>

Anyway, I have my latest banter for you all to enjoy :)  It's on the talk
page because it's me rambling, where i don't know how to shorten it, nor get
the point.  (I have alot of info in my head, but the electrons dont always
line up)  ... they will eventually though :-)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature#FAQ:_Whats_more_important_GeoBase_NID_or_origional_OSM_Data.3F

Cheers,
>From Sidney, BC
Sam Vekemans
Across Canada Trails

>
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> Richard Degelder
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