[Talk-ca] Fwd: More Google Copying

[Sam Dyck]

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From: Sam Dyck <samueldyck at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] More Google Copying
To: Adam Dunn <dunnadam at gmail.com>


Sam sent them a message, I was just uncomfortable explaining what a
copyright easter egg is and the purpose it serves.
If and when the user responds we can decide what to do. Do/can we
temporarily hide their changes or is that not possible/advisable/necessary?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Adam Dunn <dunnadam at gmail.com> wrote:

> The NRN site confirms that names are not available in Manitoba (NRN for
> that province is on version 3) [1]. Sam, maybe you should send a nice email
> explaining that a blank map is better than an illegal one. This person has
> made edits to my hometown that I basically had to revert because the
> geometry was way off. Don't know what his source is...
>
> [1] http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Sam Dyck <samueldyck at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> About an hour ago he/she was editing in Saskatoon, and has done a lot of
>> work in Rural Manitoba to.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam Vekemans <
>> acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure if this link works
>>>
>>> http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?area=1372:7&show=users&sort=total-&colour=date:30
>>> But you can see whats going on in the area..
>>> (or just log in and zoom to the area to find the mappers)
>>>
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Orkp7E40gO0fwyJ8AKlIZQ?feat=directlink
>>>
>>> Ya, it seems like alot of work has been done reciently.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Sam Dyck <samueldyck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did, Geobase doesn't even have the street and lacks street names in
>>>> Manitoba. (at least this is the case in the viewer. The Geobase data in
>>>> Winnipeg appears to be out of date by at least 14 years in some cases.
>>>> But yes, a mapping party would be a good idea, any other Winnipegers on
>>>> this list?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sam Vekemans <
>>>> acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>> The user seems to be doing alot of great work.
>>>>> Did you cross-check with the GeoBase data?
>>>>> Im not sure what the spelling of it is in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is in Winnipeg, perhaps a couch mapping party is needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sam Dyck <samueldyck at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So I just got a job that involves entering addresses into Google Maps
>>>>>> (don't ask), one of these streets, Drobot Place (all address in winnipeg),
>>>>>> Google has either deliberately or accidentally named Drobol Place (
>>>>>> here<http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=54+Drobol+Place&sll=49.940788,-97.039954&sspn=0.009239,0.01929&gl=ca&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=54+Drobol+Pl,+Winnipeg,+Division+No.+11,+Manitoba&ll=49.94056,-97.040133&spn=0.009239,0.01929&z=16>,
>>>>>> compare Yahoo<http://ca.maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=49.940088&lon=-97.039395&zoom=16&q1=44%20Drobot%20Place%2C%20Winnipeg>,
>>>>>> Bing,<http://www.bing.com/maps/#JndoZXJlMT01NiUwOURyb2JvdCtQbGFjZSZiYj00OS45NDQ1OTAyNzAwMzM5JTdlLTk3LjAyODQ1MjY2NDM3MDklN2U0OS45MzUxMDI4MTY4ODQzJTdlLTk3LjA0ODQwODI5OTQ0MTc=> City
>>>>>> of Winnipeg Assesment<http://map.winnipeg.ca/AsmtPreview/AsmtMap.asp?fav=F&CurrentYearLabel=2009%20Assessment%20Roll%20%282003%20market%20value%29&DisplayProposed=T&ProposedYearLabel=Proposed%202010%20Assessment%20Value%20%28Market%20value%20as%20at%20April%201,%202008%29&PIN=4003338400&BufferSize=100&MapWidth=800&MapHeight=600&lang=EN&Maptype=ADV>,
>>>>>> Google Street View<http://maps.google.ca/maps?client=firefox-a&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=70+drobol+place,+Winnipeg&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=70+Drobol+Pl,+Winnipeg,+Division+No.+11,+Manitoba&gl=ca&ei=c7OBS5imEMqXtgfn39GSBw&ved=0CAkQ8gEwAA&ll=49.941181,-97.039624&spn=0.002375,0.006968&z=18&layer=c&cbll=49.941066,-97.039721&panoid=rJZ56epUjR7hEGhBbvZq-w&cbp=12,148.29,,0,3.34>(Needs Flash)). OSM makes
>>>>>> the same mistake<http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.9405&lon=-97.04047&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF>as Google, which leads me to beileve that the street and others were copied
>>>>>> from Google. I really hate telling people that I caught them "cheating."
>>>>>> (I'm sure it was an honest mistake) Could someone please contact the editor
>>>>>> responsible (you can look him/her up, I don't want to name names. I would be
>>>>>> willing to help with any followup and cleanup, and you can give them my
>>>>>> username (sammuell) if you wish, I just can't bring myself to send a message
>>>>>> explaining just how I caught them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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