[Talk-ca] Proposal: Removing imported aboriginal land

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 27 23:09:10 BST 2011


First nations is fun.  Treaties were negotiated with England, Queen Victoria
I think it was, at a nation to nation basis, in recognition of the
assistance that the natives had given the British.  Canada is the only
country in the commonwealth were such treaties were made.  Everywhere else
the English simply proclaimed themselves as owning everything.

>They are tagged with admin_level=4, the same as provinces, which
misrepresents their importance.

An interesting observation.  Are you saying that a province rates above a
nation or below it?

Viewable to Z4, - this is more a rendering issue than anything else.

No one has edited them to improve them.  -  We could throw out quite a bit
of OSM based on that.  My take would be given we don't have as many mappers
on the ground as we would like and some one may find this information to be
of value so leave it in the map until it fades away because of the CT tags.
You never know some one might take an interest in it and update it,
currently it would seem to be the best information available.

Cheerio John

On 27 October 2011 17:39, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:

> In 2010 acrosscanadatrails imported Aboriginal reserves. An example is
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1016901****
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> These are viewable all the way out to z4.****
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> I propose removing these for a few reasons.****
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> **1.       **From what I’ve seen, no one has edited these to improve them.
> ****
>
> **2.       **Acrosscanadatrails has not agreed to the CTs. He has
> indicated his contributions are public domain, so the data could be
> downloaded and reimported, but I do not believe that should be done.****
>
> **3.       **The tagging is questionable, with two FIXMEs. They are tagged
> with admin_level=4, the same as provinces, which misrepresents their
> importance.****
>
> **4.       **The tagging for aboriginal lands is not settled. See
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:boundary#First_Nations for
> some discussion. Although this shouldn’t stop people from mapping them, I
> believe it should stop them from being imported.****
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