[Talk-ca] Proposal: Removing imported aboriginal land

[Samuel Longiaru]

I have been finding many of these here in south central BC and have been
leaving them of course, but consistently find that they are very highly
over digitized.  I have been simplifying their boundaries in JOSM and
and find that I can easily get a 20 or 30-fold reduction in nodes
without changing the boundaries.   Seems like a reasonable first step to
take.

Sam Longiaru
Kamloops



-----Original Message-----
From: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [Talk-ca] Proposal: Removing imported aboriginal land
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:09:10 -0400

First nations is fun.  Treaties were negotiated with England, Queen
Victoria I think it was, at a nation to nation basis, in recognition of
the assistance that the natives had given the British.  Canada is the
only country in the commonwealth were such treaties were made.
Everywhere else the English simply proclaimed themselves as owning
everything.

>They are tagged with admin_level=4, the same as provinces, which
misrepresents their importance.

An interesting observation.  Are you saying that a province rates above
a nation or below it?

Viewable to Z4, - this is more a rendering issue than anything else.  

No one has edited them to improve them.  -  We could throw out quite a
bit of OSM based on that.  My take would be given we don't have as many
mappers on the ground as we would like and some one may find this
information to be of value so leave it in the map until it fades away
because of the CT tags.  You never know some one might take an interest
in it and update it, currently it would seem to be the best information
available.

Cheerio John


On 27 October 2011 17:39, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:

        
        In 2010 acrosscanadatrails imported Aboriginal reserves. An
        example is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1016901
        
         
        
        These are viewable all the way out to z4.
        
         
        
        I propose removing these for a few reasons.
        
         
        
        1.       From what I’ve seen, no one has edited these to improve
        them.
        
        2.       Acrosscanadatrails has not agreed to the CTs. He has
        indicated his contributions are public domain, so the data could
        be downloaded and reimported, but I do not believe that should
        be done.
        
        3.       The tagging is questionable, with two FIXMEs. They are
        tagged with admin_level=4, the same as provinces, which
        misrepresents their importance.
        
        4.       The tagging for aboriginal lands is not settled. See
        http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:boundary#First_Nations for some discussion. Although this shouldn’t stop people from mapping them, I believe it should stop them from being imported.
        
        
        
        
        
        
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