[Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 102, Issue 6

John Marshall rps333 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 4 00:30:28 UTC 2016


I would say yes! The LA import was based on lesson learned from the  NYC
building import.


John Marshall

Ottawa

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:

> This is a great link, James. Can we follow a similar workflow and rules?
>
> We could write a similar wiki page.
>
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>    1. Re: Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada (James)
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> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:07:41 -0400
> From: James <james2432 at gmail.com>
> To: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Ellefsen, Bjenk \(STATCAN\)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>, Talk-CA
>         OpenStreetMap <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada
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> The city of los angeles went through the same process(importing buildings)
> and this might be useful for the project:
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_angeles,_California/Buildings_Import
>
> On Aug 3, 2016 11:04 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Technically we can add to what is there but that adds volume to the
> > database.
> >
> > We also need to settle on the tags to be used.  I noted the use of
> > building=retail I assume that is acceptable as well as commercial.
> >
> > Another tag used is ele which has the same values as building:levels but
> I
> > hadn't seen it before.
> >
> > Cheerio John
> >
> > On 3 Aug 2016 10:40 am, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> > bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> We could use only a selection of tags. In the form in the interface we
> >> will use, it could be just residential and apartments not be in the
> choices.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We will use the tags reserved for buildings. As John mentioned, malls
> can
> >> have just a few tags and then there are these shops and amenities
> floating
> >> at the same address. Could we have the building and the tags shops,
> >> offices, amenities attached to them?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bjenk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* James [mailto:james2432 at gmail.com]
> >> *Sent:* August-02-16 3:10 PM
> >> *To:* john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> >> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>; Ellefsen,
> Bjenk
> >> (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> building=apartments should also be considered residential if not they
> are
> >> tagged as offices. There is going to have to be grouping of some tags
> for
> >> residential, commercial and industrial buildings to get a full tally
> >>
> >> Yeah, terrace homes, duplexes, triplexes, condos may all have unique
> >> civic addresses. Apartments may have the the same civic address but also
> >> includes an apartment no which needs to be mapped differently then just
> >> assigning a address to a building(you are now getting into entraces and
> >> addr:flats) example of a terrace home:
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2688375179 and
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/262705861  this is the way they are
> >> doing it in the UK (after many hours in IRC asking how to properly map
> them)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one
> tag
> >> building with the building tag and type?
> >>
> >> How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for
> >> the stores?
> >>
> >> Thanks John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a way to tag a building type
> >> Here is a list of the building types:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building#Values
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 2, 2016 2:48 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> >> bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about buildings for
> OSM:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> name
> >>
> >> Address:
> >>
> >> ·         Number
> >>
> >> ·         street
> >>
> >> ·         city
> >>
> >> ·         postal code
> >>
> >> levels
> >>
> >> office, shop
> >>
> >> type of access (handicap, etc.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If there is a way to categorize them as residential, non-residential
> that
> >> would be perfect.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you think? Anything else we should add?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> >> l’intégration de données (LEID)
> >>
> >> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur
> >> les entreprises
> >>
> >> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
> >>
> >> (343) 998-3004
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> --
> >>
> >> 外に遊びに行こう!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one
> tag
> >> building with the building tag and type?
> >>
> >> How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for
> >> the stores?
> >>
> >> Thanks John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a way to tag a building type
> >> Here is a list of the building types:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building#Values
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 2, 2016 2:48 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> >> bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about buildings for
> OSM:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> name
> >>
> >> Address:
> >>
> >> ·         Number
> >>
> >> ·         street
> >>
> >> ·         city
> >>
> >> ·         postal code
> >>
> >> levels
> >>
> >> office, shop
> >>
> >> type of access (handicap, etc.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If there is a way to categorize them as residential, non-residential
> that
> >> would be perfect.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you think? Anything else we should add?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> >> l’intégration de données (LEID)
> >>
> >> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur
> >> les entreprises
> >>
> >> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
> >>
> >> (343) 998-3004
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> 外に遊びに行こう!
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