[Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

Kunce, Dale dale.kunce at redcross.org
Mon May 9 19:43:47 UTC 2016


Bernie,
I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for our needs for tracing.

Thanks again for your help.

Dale
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From: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 2:58 PM
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>>
Cc: Dale Kunce <dale.kunce at redcross.org<mailto:dale.kunce at redcross.org>>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for buildings to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data sets we might be able to get hold of.  I'm thinking of using the Treasury Broad gateway which means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with the provinces and some cites on Open Data data sets.

Thanks John

On 6 May 2016 at 20:20, Bernie Connors <berniejconnors at gmail.com<mailto:berniejconnors at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

      Looking at Esri's world topo basemap in Fort McMurray you can see that the building footprints are very complete. It could be a redundant use of our resources to obtain pre- fire imagery to digitize buildings. Almost anyone could create an app with ArcGIS Online to do Assessment of building damage.

Bernie.

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From: Kevin Farrugia
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:00 PM
To: Darren Ewaniuk
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires



There's been at least 20 captures of the area by satellites in the past 3 days, but what use are they going to be at this stage of the fire?

Also, what are we going to try to achieve once the fires are done? The roads are already there and Canada/Alberta have advanced spatial capabilities and detailed data for official purposes, so the work would basically entail deleting burned down buildings.

I'm willing to help out, just not clear what the goal with regards to data is going to be. :)

On May 6, 2016 7:42 PM, "Darren Ewaniuk" <darren_ewaniuk at hotmail.com<mailto:darren_ewaniuk at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed to Google / Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past allowed imaging for open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be able to do so here.


http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/

The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:

14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
15 - Waterways

16 - Waterways (North)

17 - Beacon Hill (North)

18 - Abasands

19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown


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From: Heather Leson <heatherleson at gmail.com<mailto:heatherleson at gmail.com>>
Sent: May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
To: Simon Wood
Cc: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires


Hello

Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this decision with you.

Heather

On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood" <simon at mungewell.org<mailto:simon at mungewell.org>> wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

Cheers,
Simon.


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