[Talk-ca] Happy Valley-Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada Data

[Stewart C. Russell]

On 2017-04-03 01:22 PM, john whelan wrote:
> … At the municipal level the license has been approved by 
> OpenStreetMap's legal working group.

This is not the case, unfortunately. This from personal communication
from Simon Poole of the OSM Foundation's legal team from March 2017:

>> [The Ontario and Toronto licences] illustrate why we didn't want to
>> make a blanket statement wrt OGL licence variants in CA and why in
>> general the situation is a bit of a mess.

All individual OGL variants need approval from the legal working group.

So perhaps the OGL licensing route wouldn't be the best route: a lot of
bureaucracy on the Happy Valley-Goose Bay side, and then a several month
wait for the LWG to review. I don't think Anatolijs would want that.

Given the size of the town and the severe budget constraints, you might
have more luck suggesting to the town that allowing the road data to be
imported to OSM would be a real value proposition. There are permission
request letters here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission . The
town's response to that would be an important thing to include in the
import wiki page.

There's a (slim) possibility that the town's data, being derived from
Worldview 2 data, may not able to be licensed under an open licence. Is
there anything in the data agreement between the town and Worldview
regarding data rights?

As long as the town is amenable and the licence isn't horrible, the OSM
import process described here isn't too onerous:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
There have been several notes to the OSM Imports list¹ from municipal
GIS techs who want to do the same as you, and as long as there's a wiki
page and permission from the town granted, it goes ahead smoothly.

(and even if everything goes sideways, there's a lot you can do with a
vehicle and a GPS that sidesteps licensing completely …)

Really pleased that you want to do this, Anatolijs!

Best Wishes,
 Stewart


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¹: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports

> 
> On 3 Apr 2017 12:33 pm, "Anatolijs Venovcevs" 
> <gistech at happyvalley-goosebay.com 
> <mailto:gistech at happyvalley-goosebay.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,____
> 
> __ __
> 
> I’ve been a longtime fan of Open Street Map but this is the first 
> time I ever decided to help contribute to it. I am the GIS 
> technologist for the Town of Happy Valley-Goose Bay in Newfoundland 
> and Labrador, Canada - 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/53.3085/-60.3463 
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/53.3085/-60.3463>____
> 
> ____
> 
> It’s a small, isolated community of approximately 8,100 people and 
> I’m the only one with any GIS training and experience. As a result, 
> I’m responsible for doing just about everything to assist the town
> in geospatial-related functions and have a very tight budget and not
> a lot of time to them. One of the things there’s been a real
> interest in is developing some sort of a basic interactive web map
> for the town’s public information (zoning, water and sewer lines,
> attractions for our tourist map, etc.). I’m planning on using QGIS
> plugin qgis2web to do that and use an OpenStreetMap background.____
> 
> ____
> 
> Before I can do that, OpenStreetMap data for the town needs to be 
> updated. It looks to me approximately five years out of date and the
>  town has been experiencing a major boom in the last few years. 
> Currently, the town has possession of an updated street centerline 
> network (digitized from 40 cm resolution orthorectified Worldview 2 
> satellite imagery) and an up-to-date civic number system with 
> building footprints and parcels for recreational spaces and etc. 
> coming later this year. I’d like to share them with the OSM 
> community.____
> 
> __ __
> 
> Before I do that, I’m looking for community buy-in for the project.
> I will start with manually adding the new streets that have been
> built over the last few years and correct any information within the
> town boundaries that no longer represents reality on the ground. If
> that’s ok with all of you, I’d like to make the OSM web mapping for
> my corner of Canada a little better.____
> 
> ____
> 
> Thank you,____
> 
> __ __
> 
> *Anatolijs Venovcevs* ____
> 
> __ __
> 
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