[Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

Alan Richards alarobric at gmail.com
Tue Mar 7 19:16:25 UTC 2017


For reference, here's the full email and response I got, in case it helps
others with similar requests:

Hi,
> I tried sending this through the feedback form on the Open Data site, but
> it was too long for the form and my shorter inquiry was never responded to.
> Given the upcoming HackOurCity and InnovationWeek, I'm hoping that this can
> be passed along to the appropriate people.
> Dear New West Open Data,
> Thank you for making open data available to the public.
> I am a resident of New Westminster, but also a contributor to the
> OpenStreetMap project [1], a collaborative open project to create a global
> geodata set freely usable by anyone [2].
> We respect the IP rights of others and I write to ask if we can use your
> data. OpenStreetMap (OSM) uses the ODbL license [3]. The OGL-City of New
> Westminster is based upon the OGL-BC, which in turn is based upon the
> OGL-CA. As I understand, the OGL-CA has been deemed compatible with the
> ODbL, but the OGL-BC has slightly modified wording introducing an exemption
> for the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (B.C.). Given
> the goals of most municipal Open Data projects, I imagine you would happy
> for the data to be used by OSM, but we would ask for a statement clearing
> the use.
> At the most simple, I would seek a statement like this:
> "Data available in the Orthophotography, Landuse, Address, Building
> Footprints, and Park Benches datasets location of the City of New
> Westminster's Open Data site under the following location:
> http://opendata.newwestcity.ca/datasets is released in accordance with
> the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act of British
> Columbia."
> Such a statement was provided by the City of Vancouver for their own
> datasets for inclusion in OSM.
> An alternative statement that would work in a more general sense is the
> following:
> "The City of New Westminster has no objections to geodata derived in part
> from the Orthophotography, Landuse, Address, Building Footprints, and Park
> Benches datasets being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata
> database and released under a free and open license".
> Alternatively, releasing the datasets under a Public Domain, CC0, PDDL, or
> ODbL license would satisfy our license requirements.
> I also ask that whatever statement you are prepared to make can be made
> public for information purposes.
> Below is a fact sheet. If you would like any more information, I will do
> my best to help or can ask our project's License Working Group to get in
> touch with you. I've also included a couple links to discussion on license
> compatibility in Nanaimo and Vancouver.
> Regards, Alan Richards (alarobric)
> Fact Sheet
> [1] The OpenStreetMap project currently has over 750,000 registered
> contributors worldwide. Our main website is http://www.openstreetmap.org
> [2] We are mandated to make our geodata available in perpetuity under a
> free and open licence. We are not allowed to use a commercial license, but
> commercial organisations are allowed to use our data under similar terms.
> [3] Our data is currently published under the Open Database License 1.0,
> http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
> [4] Most of our geodata is contributed by individuals. However, we are
> very grateful when able to incorporate or derive from other geo-data datasets
> where license terms are compatible.
> [5] We formally attribute all such sources at http://wiki.openstreetmap.
> org/wiki/Attribution, using any specific wording if you request. We also
> try to provide a link to this page with any extract of data from our
> database. However, for reasons of practicality, we do not require end-users
> to repeat such attribution since it runs into hundreds.
> [6] We also keep a public track of third party data use at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue and usually have a
> project page for each dataset, describing how we use it and whether there
> are any license restrictions to be aware of.
> [7] If you have any specific legal questions, the OpenStreetMap
> Foundation's License Working Group can be reached at
> legal at osmfoundation.org and will be glad to help.
> [8] Nanaimo licensing discussion: https://lists.
> openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2013-December/005974.html
> [9] Vancouver discussion: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/
> talk-ca/2014-February/006037.html




 Dear Mr. Richards,
> Thank you for your very clear email.  We really want to facilitate your
> and other open data users work.  We have therefore added a statement
> above our license that all data sets in the City’s open data collection
> are released in accordance with the Freedom of Information and Protection
> of Privacy Act of BC.  A link to the page is below.
> http://opendata.newwestcity.ca/licence
>
> Please let me know if you have further concerns or requests for data sets.
>
> Yours,
>
> *Jacque Killawee*  |  Records and Information Administrator
> *T* 604.515.3764 <(604)%20515-3764>  |  *E* jkillawee at newwestcity.ca
>
> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CB03C9.D6E8C540] City of New Westminster  |
>  Legislative Services
> 511 Royal Avenue, New Westminster, BC V3L 1H9
> www.newwestcity.ca
>


On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Alan Richards <alarobric at gmail.com> wrote:

> From what I've seen so far, the opinion seems to be that the OGL-BC
> devived licenses like this one require a statement about the Freedom of
> Information and Protection of Privacy Act. This was done for the City of
> Vancouver license, and I've just recently recieved an update from the City
> of New Westminster along the same lines. They were very happy to adjust it
> after I contacted them though.
>
> "Data available in the blah blah blah datasets location of the City of New
>  Westminster's Open Data site under the following location:
> http://opendata.newwestcity.ca/datasets is released in accordance with
> the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act of British
> Columbia."
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Stewart C. Russell <scruss at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-03-05 09:44 PM, Brent Fraser wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >   I've had a request to improve the stream and trail data around Gibsons
>> > BC using data from the Sunshine Coast Regional District (SCRD
>> > http://www.scrd.ca/data-download).  Their license
>> > (http://www.scrd.ca/scrd_disclaimer) permits this
>>
>> In addition to James's link, you'd need to have the SCRD licence
>> approved by the Licensing Working Group. Takes a couple of months. I see
>> a glaring error in the text: they copypasta'd North Van's licence, but
>> didn't find and replace properly, leaving the attribution as “Contains
>> information licensed under the Open Government Licence - North Vancouver.”
>>
>>  Stewart
>>
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