[Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

[john whelan]

No we need to persuade the municipalities to move to the new standard
license in the TB kit and I think Stats will have better success that we
will in the first instance also Open-Ouvert could probably let us know
which municipalities have expressed an interest  in the new license.

Cheerio John

On 27 September 2017 at 18:52, Alan Richards <alarobric at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's still a different license for each city, province, or organisation,
> and the current opinion is that each different license needs to go through
> the same multi-month review to be approved for OSM.
>
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> T.B. have what they call a Municipal Open Data kit which basically has
>> the same license as the city of Ottawa uses plus how to use it.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 27 September 2017 at 18:40, Stewart Russell <scruss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But they can't use OGL-CA v2 cos municipalities aren't federal. And
>>> anything but the actual few already approved licences need a multi-month
>>> review.
>>>
>>>  Stewart
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2017 18:28, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> other then have them change their license from say ogl-ca v1 to ogl-cav2
>>>>
>>>> theres not much we can do from a legal stand point. ogl-ca v1 puts too
>>>> many restrictions
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2017 6:21 PM, "Matthew Darwin" <matthew at mdarwin.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do we want to move this discussion forward?  Do we need to set up
>>>>> a time to talk on the phone? I am willing to help coordinate logistics.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-09-17 10:55 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-09-17 10:40 AM, john whelan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They'd like to extend it across Canada so now might be the time to
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> about the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That sounds good. Despite some prodding, the Licence Working Group
>>>>>> (LWG)
>>>>>> hasn't got back to me with any updates on how they want to handle the
>>>>>> Toronto or Ontario licences. I first contacted them in March, so if it
>>>>>> takes them six months or more to look at the licence, then this import
>>>>>> is a multi year (if not multi-decade) project. Remember, LWG has
>>>>>> decided
>>>>>> that *every* Canadian licence variant needs their sign-off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Denis Carr (open data lead) from Toronto has been on board since the
>>>>>> spring, and I hope hasn't forgotten us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toronto has nice building outlines (embedded in the 3D Massing data
>>>>>> set,
>>>>>> so we can pull out base elevation and height). We also have address
>>>>>> points already in the middle of buildings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It also is of great help that the Esri Community Imagery includes some
>>>>>> very nice municipal air photos for verification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Stewart
>>>>>>
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