[Talk-ca] Stats Canada building project

[James]

municipalities will follow what the federal is doing. ideally everything
would be public domain, but that would be a utopian world. forget them
switching to ODbL, most people have no idea about it and is very
restrictive when you want to change licenses in the future.

On Sep 27, 2017 7:01 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No we need to persuade the municipalities to move to the new standard
> license in the TB kit and I think Stats will have better success that we
> will in the first instance also Open-Ouvert could probably let us know
> which municipalities have expressed an interest  in the new license.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 27 September 2017 at 18:52, Alan Richards <alarobric at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's still a different license for each city, province, or organisation,
>> and the current opinion is that each different license needs to go through
>> the same multi-month review to be approved for OSM.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> T.B. have what they call a Municipal Open Data kit which basically has
>>> the same license as the city of Ottawa uses plus how to use it.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 27 September 2017 at 18:40, Stewart Russell <scruss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But they can't use OGL-CA v2 cos municipalities aren't federal. And
>>>> anything but the actual few already approved licences need a multi-month
>>>> review.
>>>>
>>>>  Stewart
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2017 18:28, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> other then have them change their license from say ogl-ca v1 to
>>>>> ogl-cav2
>>>>>
>>>>> theres not much we can do from a legal stand point. ogl-ca v1 puts too
>>>>> many restrictions
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2017 6:21 PM, "Matthew Darwin" <matthew at mdarwin.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do we want to move this discussion forward?  Do we need to set up
>>>>>> a time to talk on the phone? I am willing to help coordinate logistics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-09-17 10:55 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-09-17 10:40 AM, john whelan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They'd like to extend it across Canada so now might be the time to
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> about the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That sounds good. Despite some prodding, the Licence Working Group
>>>>>>> (LWG)
>>>>>>> hasn't got back to me with any updates on how they want to handle the
>>>>>>> Toronto or Ontario licences. I first contacted them in March, so if
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> takes them six months or more to look at the licence, then this
>>>>>>> import
>>>>>>> is a multi year (if not multi-decade) project. Remember, LWG has
>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>> that *every* Canadian licence variant needs their sign-off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Denis Carr (open data lead) from Toronto has been on board since the
>>>>>>> spring, and I hope hasn't forgotten us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toronto has nice building outlines (embedded in the 3D Massing data
>>>>>>> set,
>>>>>>> so we can pull out base elevation and height). We also have address
>>>>>>> points already in the middle of buildings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It also is of great help that the Esri Community Imagery includes
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> very nice municipal air photos for verification.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Stewart
>>>>>>>
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