[Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

[James]

not only that but sometimes they add things that make it more or less
compatible(previously bc and their unique privacy or something else)

On Jan 28, 2018 2:14 PM, "OSM Volunteer stevea" <steveaOSM at softworkers.com>
wrote:

> On Jan 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > If we have a description of the scope of the work involved in updating
> the BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to find some senior students who
> could be trained to take on this task for locations in Ontario. It would be
> a very small start, of course. Also, can someone explain to me the
> licensing issue? How do datasets released under the open government license
> not meet the legal requirements of the OSM license?
>
> Then, On Jan 28, 2018, at 10:57 AM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > license is federal, cities must modify it to apply to municipal, thus
> creating new license
>
> SO, please ladies and gentleman, "figure out" what your licensing status
> is, and document it.  First in https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/
> Contributors#Canadian_Municipalities where it is now said these entries
> are incorrect (except for Ottawa).  Second in https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/
> WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020/building_OD_tables, which now
> refers back to that page in all the "green" cells.
>
> This is what OSM (partly) is:  documenting in a wiki (for all to see and
> share in the knowledge of) the status of licensing, a link to an Import
> Plan, helpful steps to take when you get stuck and don't know what to do, a
> place to propose streamlined or improved methodology, a way to capture the
> status of a project (whether with or without Task Manager links) perhaps
> using red/yellow/green color-coded cells, or cells that have "80% done" in
> them, as appropriate, et cetera.
>
> The "scope of the work involved in updating the BC2020 OD tables" is not
> hard, it is this:
>
> 1)  View OD_tables wiki (the second link above)
> 2)  Click the Log In link (upper right) and enter your OSM wiki
> credentials (different than your OSM credentials)
> 3)  Click the Edit Source link (ditto), I don't recommend the
> usually-more-friendly-user-interface Edit link, as you are editing TABLES
> here, and (in my opinion) our wiki's raw (lightweight, relatively easy)
> markup language is the only sane choice here to edit table data entries
> 4)  Edit the table data for each cell which is now green (yes), but which
> should be red (no) or perhaps something in the middle, yellow (partial).
> There are 11 colored cells now, 7 are green, 4 are yellow.  It seems 1
> should be green (Ottawa) and therefore left alone, but the other ten should
> be changed to red or yellow.  So, GO!
>
> OTHERS reading this list (not me!) must properly decide what these
> colors/statuses are, as I'm merely some guy in the USA who wants to see the
> project go forward, but the licenses, and importantly, their statuses as
> communicated to the rest of OSM via the Contributors page and the
> WikiProject BC2020 OD tables page are now confused/outdated/wrong and so
> these must be updated so they are correct for 2018, now and going forward.
>
> > I offer to "change from green to red" wiki table status for all cities
> (except Ottawa), although I'd also like to see Contributors be updated
> (with only Ottawa) as I suggest.  Teamwork, anybody?  Simply to keep our
> project-wide communication current?  It's neither difficult nor
> time-consuming and shares present status with "the rest of us."
>
> And my offer still stands, I just have no clue what is going on with these
> licenses.  Does anybody here?  Please, let's not kick this into "well, it's
> sorta lost in the LWG..." unless that is REALLY true.  It seems this is a
> Canadian initiative to move forward with these and I'm left with little to
> do from here to push it forward any differently than I have been.
>
> Thank you,
> SteveA
> California
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