[Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

[Jonathan Brown]

Okay, I know the Open Data folks and Open Government folks in Ontario. It’s their job to connect to and support the data stewards within government who are releasing data through the Open Data Portal. The federal open government folks are holding a meeting in Toronto this Monday where the provincial and city folks are likely to be in attendance. I can raise this licensing issue and how this is a barrier to crowdsourcing and citizen science, something that they are keen on embracing. It would be good to show them a working example. Has the BC2020i OSM data been integrated into the Ottawa Open Data Portal?  

Jonathan 

From: john whelan
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 2:29 PM
To: Jonathan Brown
Cc: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue.  If you do map from Bing please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM.  We tend to find new mappers using iD are not very accurate.
If the city has an Open Data file of the building outlines then it must be available under a licence that OpenStreetMap can accept.  Part of the problem is you can use OpenStreetMap for anything.
The Canadian Federal Government noticed there were problems with their Open Data licence for OpenStreetMap amongst others they came up with version 2.0.  Ottawa was the first municipality to adopt the new license and it took about five years to get it sorted out from start to finish.
I was involved in the original import and was under the impression that since we were importing CANVEC data and that was available under the 2.0 license that the municipal equivalent license was acceptable. Some Stats Canada addresses had been imported from the TB open data portal in Toronto and they were under the same impression.
It became apparent that the CANVEC imports were not done under the 2.0 license in OSM's eyes.
The TB 2.0 and the Ottawa Open Data license was referred to the LWG for their opinion.  Their opinion was they were acceptable.  However they wished to view any other Open Data licenses in Canada before giving their benediction.  
Some Open Data licenses say and if we don't like what you are doing you must remove our data.  This is an example on something that OSM would find unacceptable.
Once the outlines are in place then other tags can be added.
Cheerio John

On 28 January 2018 at 13:50, Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com> wrote:
If we have a description of the scope of the work involved in updating the BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to find some senior students who could be trained to take on this task for locations in Ontario. It would be a very small start, of course. Also, can someone explain to me the licensing issue? How do datasets released under the open government license not meet the legal requirements of the OSM license? 
 
Jonathan 
 
 




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