[Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

[Matthew Darwin]

Do-it-Yourself Open Data Toolkit is released here: 
http://open.canada.ca/en/do-it-yourself-open-data-toolkit

Here is the license (Federal): 
http://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada


Matthew Darwin
matthew at mdarwin.ca
http://www.mdarwin.ca

On 2018-01-28 03:17 PM, john whelan wrote:
> The Ottawa building outlines were identified as a possibility by 
> Tracey at a meeting between Stats Can City of Ottawa and a few 
> people from OSM plus a few others by phone who had done something 
> similar.
>
> Most of the enriching of OSM from Ottawa's Open Data came through 
> their portal such as the GTFS file.  Martin and James have done most 
> of the work integrating what they could find.
>
> Once we had the license lined up then I understand the building 
> outline file was supplied separately to the Open Data portal but 
> with the same licence.  I think James would know if it came on a USB 
> stick or not.
>
> The Stats Can building project has had a lot of interest from 
> municipalities.  I think Kingston was very keen.  Its value is the 
> mixture of Open Data and the enrichment that comes from the OSM side 
> to give the number of levels etc.
>
> TB are supposed to have an Open data kit for municipalities real 
> soon now and that is supposed to include information about the TB 
> 2.0 Open Data Licence that Ottawa is using.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 28 January 2018 at 14:42, Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jonabrow at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Okay, I know the Open Data folks and Open Government folks in
>     Ontario. It’s their job to connect to and support the data
>     stewards within government who are releasing data through the
>     Open Data Portal. The federal open government folks are holding
>     a meeting in Toronto this Monday where the provincial and city
>     folks are likely to be in attendance. I can raise this licensing
>     issue and how this is a barrier to crowdsourcing and citizen
>     science, something that they are keen on embracing. It would be
>     good to show them a working example. Has the BC2020i OSM data
>     been integrated into the Ottawa Open Data Portal?
>
>     Jonathan
>
>     *From: *john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>     *Sent: *Sunday, January 28, 2018 2:29 PM
>     *To: *Jonathan Brown <mailto:jonabrow at gmail.com>
>     *Cc: *talk-ca at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
>     *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status
>
>     If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue.  If you do map
>     from Bing please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM.  We tend
>     to find new mappers using iD are not very accurate.
>
>     If the city has an Open Data file of the building outlines then
>     it must be available under a licence that OpenStreetMap can
>     accept.  Part of the problem is you can use OpenStreetMap for
>     anything.
>
>     The Canadian Federal Government noticed there were problems with
>     their Open Data licence for OpenStreetMap amongst others they
>     came up with version 2.0.  Ottawa was the first municipality to
>     adopt the new license and it took about five years to get it
>     sorted out from start to finish.
>
>     I was involved in the original import and was under the
>     impression that since we were importing CANVEC data and that was
>     available under the 2.0 license that the municipal equivalent
>     license was acceptable. Some Stats Canada addresses had been
>     imported from the TB open data portal in Toronto and they were
>     under the same impression.
>
>     It became apparent that the CANVEC imports were not done under
>     the 2.0 license in OSM's eyes.
>
>     The TB 2.0 and the Ottawa Open Data license was referred to the
>     LWG for their opinion. Their opinion was they were acceptable.
>     However they wished to view any other Open Data licenses in
>     Canada before giving their benediction.
>
>     Some Open Data licenses say and if we don't like what you are
>     doing you must remove our data.  This is an example on something
>     that OSM would find unacceptable.
>
>     Once the outlines are in place then other tags can be added.
>
>     Cheerio John
>
>     On 28 January 2018 at 13:50, Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jonabrow at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         If we have a description of the scope of the work involved
>         in updating the BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to
>         find some senior students who could be trained to take on
>         this task for locations in Ontario. It would be a very small
>         start, of course. Also, can someone explain to me the
>         licensing issue? How do datasets released under the open
>         government license not meet the legal requirements of the
>         OSM license?
>
>         Jonathan
>
>
>
>
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