[Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017
Matthew Darwin
matthew at mdarwin.ca
Mon Jan 29 00:08:46 UTC 2018
Forward from a very long distribution list:
Hi J,
So you are not aware of any Indigenous communities engaged with OSM
anywhere in Canada? It would be great if OSM could be introduced to
Indigenous community members so they can help define a direction.
Since you have contacts, can you help doing introductions? I am
assuming you are part of the OSM community already? How would you
propose creating a working group?
Also can we move this discussion to the OSM Canada mailing list?
There is an active discussion on the building initiative there. Maybe
others know about Indigenous activities already?
On 2018-01-26 02:53 PM, J. Hackett wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I brought up a few issues surrounding Indigenous engagement at the
> meeting in July.
>
> There still remains no engagement with Indigenous communities
> whatsoever. It is pertinent that if you want to involve the
> Indigenous demographic that an Indigenous Working Group be
> established to develop, plan, and engage with communities in the
> spirit of truth and reconciliqtion, especially in light of the
> recent TRC.
>
> The 2018 Indigenous Mapping Workshop will be hosted in Montreal. It
> might provide a good venue to truly get the conversation/movement
> going forward.
>
> Our tech partners, Google, Esri Canada, and Mapbox, are working with
> us to develop geospatial capacity building within communities;
> therefore, it could be a good opportunity to bridge efforts with the
> 100+ communities that will attend the event.
>
> Feel free to reach out to me if there is interest in any partnership
> with our programming in Montreal, QC.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 14:04 Jonathan Brown, <jonabrow at gmail.com
> <mailto:jonabrow at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I’m a newbie to the wiki and OSM mapathon process. I’m
> interested in connecting the open data to the OSM and wiki
> process that can be used by K-12 and postsecondary students to
> support municipal and regional planning and implementation of
> sustainable development goals. Alessandro pointed to the Philly
> Fresh Food Mapper as a good example of using OSM to address the
> challenge of food security at the local level:
> https://www.geovista.psu.edu/phillyfood/
>
> The question is how to sustain these projects once the students
> have graduated. I have cced Steve Quinn who provided the GIS/OSM
> expertise for that crowdsourcing/citizen science project. He is
> still active in organizing mapathon events on Twitter:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SterlingGIS
>
> I have been asked for simple guides that can be used be teachers
> that they can incorporate into their lesson plans and that align
> with the strategic goals of the K-12 education system they work
> within. It would be very helpful if the education wiki included
> posters that could be shared with principals, teachers and
> community NGO agencies partnering on an event that uses the
> BC2020i framework.
>
> Here is an example of how a working team at Brock University put
> together resources for a high school data management
> prerequisite course:
> https://brocku.ca/cmt/mdm4u/asprojects/index.html. I noticed
> that the working group did a call out to Joel Yan, Statistics
> Canada, for the work he did on making Canadian data available;
> and to Stephen Brown, Professor of Statistics at Waterloo, for
> his suggestions on restructuring each activity. Professor Andrew
> Skelton has taken it one step further by including spatial
> analysis with his MDM4U Open Data project in collaboration with
> his GIS colleagues: https://mathstat.uoguelph.ca/outreach/opendata
>
> It would be good to see how Josée-Anne Langlois work in the
> north with open source mapping tools like GGIS and OSM (see
> below) could be combined with open data from the provincial and
> federal open data catalogues to create a community profile that
> is accessible and engaging for community partners.
>
> Jonathan
>
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> *Subject: *Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017
>
> Would love to discuss what's next soon. Anyone want to take the
> lead on setting up a time to sync up?
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:45 PM, Matthew Darwin
> <matthew at mdarwin.ca <mailto:matthew at mdarwin.ca>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have updates other than the great update from
> Alessandro? In addition to using the CA-Talk mailing list,
> I would suggest adding updates to the wiki page.
>
> Matthew Darwin
>
> matthew at mdarwin.ca <mailto:matthew at mdarwin.ca>
>
> http://www.mdarwin.ca
>
> On 2017-12-21 01:51 PM, Mikel Maron wrote:
>
> Thank you Alessandro for the full update and congrats to
> all for the great start. Excited to see what's coming in
> 2018.
>
> My suggestion for communication and coordination is to
> use OSM forums as much as feasible.
>
> * Post this update as an OpenStreetMap Diary
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary
>
> * Share a link to the update, and everyone subscribe and
> undertake discussion on the talk-ca mailing list
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
>
> * If there are topics which can't be discussed
> completely openly, let's also have another mailing list
> with the group on this email.
>
> Yes, it's a little rough on the lists some times, but
> the volume is low, and the transparency and
> accessibility will be a big boost to the project.
>
> -Mikel
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Alasia, Alessandro
> (STATCAN) <alessandro.alasia at canada.ca
> <mailto:alessandro.alasia at canada.ca>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> It is just over three months since the *Building
> Canada 2020* workshop took place and the initiative
> was launched, as such, I thought I would provide an
> update on what has occurred on our end. My first
> comment is that I am impressed by the amount of work
> that has been done and the ideas that have been
> generated and shared (and we are only at “month
> 3”!). About 50,000 buildings polygons were added to
> the OSM map of Canada since we met.
>
> Two more general comments (before providing more
> details on specific project/activities):
>
> 1.*Communication:*A lot of work has been done on the
> *project’s wiki page* (and I think a lot more is
> upcoming!). Have a look and feel free to edit/add or
> suggest content. For the purpose of communications,
> it is important and useful to keep a record of all
> developments, resources, and initiatives on this
> page. Now would be a good opportunity to update the
> contact list (at least with reference to your
> institution). *Have a look at the amazing work that
> is done in Canada and internationally with building
> data on OSM and other open data!! - *Wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020
>
> 2.*Governance and coordination*: Hopefully, much of
> the projects/activities are self-governing but some
> coordination and communication mechanism is needed.
> I can provide periodic email updates, but I think it
> would be more ideal for all if a more effective
> communication mechanism is found (simple, open,
> inclusive). My questions on this matter:
>
> a.Any suggestion? (Google discussion group? Or
> something else very simple and open?)
>
> b.*Anybody who wants to take the lead on this?*A
> grad student from some of the universities could do
> a fantastic work on this, I am sure J
>
> Below are more details on specific projects and
> activities that took place, are starting, or are
> upcoming. Having a mechanism that enhances our
> communication and coordination on these activities
> would be fantastic.
>
> A final note from me: A special *thanks to Tim
> Elrick*, who in a nice presentation (see link below)
> on this initiative suggested the tag “*BC2020i*”,
> with an “i” for “initiative” (instead of “BC2020”).
> I took the liberty to adopt it in this email (and
> for the future J!). This is a small but significant
> improvement as the tag BC2020 is associated with
> other entities.
>
> *New projects and initiatives*
>
> ·*OSMGeoWeek Mapathons*: Much content was added to
> OSM during GeoWeek thanks to the remarkable work
> done by nearly 200 mappers/researchers/academics in
> several universities/colleges across Canada, and to
> the coordination and support provided by Julia
> Conzon (see links to the resources/results,
> including validation tool, on the project’s Wiki
> page). Hopefully this effort will continue. There
> are other mapathons currently under discussion, thus
> continuing some coordination on this would be fantastic.
>
> ·*NRCan is working on a methodology to extract
> building footprints, including topographic elevation
> and height attributes, from LiDAR:*The objective of
> this work is to have a production system implemented
> by March 2018 and to provide this new Product on
> Open Maps Canada (i.e., importing to OSM should be
> possible!). The areas covered are those for which
> Open Data LiDAR coverage is currently available
> (see: http://open.canada.ca/en/open-maps). The
> contact person for this project is Pierre Gravel
> (NRCan/RNCan): pierre.gravel at canada.ca
> <mailto:pierre.gravel at canada.ca>
>
> ·*NRCan has initiated a project on collaborative
> mapping of buildings in the North:*This project will
> be implemented with open source mapping tools
> developed during the StatCan crowdsourcing pilot
> project. The contact person for this project is
> Josée-Anne Langlois (Josee-anne.langlois at canada.ca
> <mailto:Josee-anne.langlois at canada.ca>)
>
> ·*A group in the Niagara Region is now active in
> bringing BC2020i to high schools*: Summary of the
> initiative - “*Open Data in Education: What Problem
> Do You Want to Solve?”* The primary goal is to
> leverage *open source resources and digital tools*
> to create opportunities for students to solve
> real-world problems. A secondary goal is to
> stimulate students to think critically about the
> potential impact of digital infrastructure on
> remote, rural and urban communities. Through
> experiential learning outside the classroom,
> students will use mobile devises to map and analyze
> real-time data combined with open data from
> government catalogues to address a municipal and/or
> regional policy challenge (e.g., climate change,
> poverty reduction (affordable housing/mental
> health/education) and adapting to automation in the
> new economy). The contact person is Johnathan Brown:
> jonabrow at gmail.com <mailto:jonabrow at gmail.com>
>
> ·*DEIL at StatCan*: We are discussing internally a
> *Crowdsourcing Phase II project*, which we hope to
> start in the coming fiscal. We are looking at
> options to improving monitoring tools (and
> discussing with HOT developers of OSM Analytics
> about how to improve and increase geometries for
> standard geographies of Canada on that tool). We are
> *exploring* *QGIS tools (and other open source
> tools)* and would be very interested in doing
> collaborative work with anybody interested
> developing**open source data processing or
> analytical tools for OSM data on buildings. Finally,
> we are discussing use of *OSM tools/data with
> colleagues at the OECD *(Secretariat and delegates
> from different countries), for international
> comparative housing statistics analysis on global
> open data platforms. The contacts for DEIL are Jean
> Le Moullec and myself: jean.lemoullec at canada.ca
> <mailto:jean.lemoullec at canada.ca>,
> alessandro.alasia at canada.ca
> <mailto:alessandro.alasia at canada.ca>
>
> *Presentations *(Please share your presentation on
> BC2020i …. the initiative and all the material on
> the wiki page is yours to present!)
>
> ·Jean Le Moullec, presented at McGill for OSMGeoWeek
> (ppt available from Jean)
>
> ·Tim Elrick, Geographic Information Centre (GIC),
> McGill (presentation available at:
> https://www.slideshare.net/Geomatique2009/tim-elrick-mcgill-gic-creating-open-data-the-building-canada-2020-initiative)
>
> ·Jonathan Brown presented BC2020i at Niagara Region
> workshop (and is presenting at several other
> regional meetings).
>
> ·Upcoming: Alessandro Alasia will present BC2020i
> (via teleconference) at FOSS4G-IT 2018, as the
> Italian OSM community seems to follow BC2020i with
> interest.
>
> *Conclusions:*This is amazing work! And who knows,
> there might be some major breakthrough that will get
> all buildings across Canada mapped on OSM by 2019 J!
> Innovation happens when setting “unrealistic” goals!
>
> Again, I would like to encourage everyone to take
> some time to think on ways to improve communication
> and coordination, so that the flow of information
> for ongoing and upcoming initiatives is not delayed
> in any way. If you have a solution, please bring it
> forward and implement it.
>
> Have a Great Holiday Season,
>
> Alessandro and DEIL Team
>
> PS. I hope I did not miss anybody from the
> distribution list. Please share with your network
> and interested people. Thanks.
>
> Alessandro Alasia
> Chief | Chef
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab
> pour l’exploration et l’intégration de données (LEID)
>
> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des
> Projets Spéciaux sur les entreprises
>
> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
> alessandro.alasia at canada.ca
> <mailto:alessandro.alasia at canada.ca> / (613)
> 796-6049 <tel:%28613%29%20796-6049>
>
>
>
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> M.Phil International Peace Studies
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