[Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

john whelan jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 23 17:00:41 UTC 2019


The issue is the "quality" of the data.  In Ottawa the local mappers felt
it was acceptable so that works for Ottawa.

Does anyone on the mailing list object to a local community of one
importing the buildings that are local to them?

Thanks John

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 12:41 PM Joshua Kenney, <kenney_45 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that update on the current status of the building import!  I've
> checked the Stats Canada site, and they do indeed have the up-to-date
> building data from Airdrie (although stripped of the height and elevation
> tags).  I seem to be the only active mapper in Airdrie, is it possible for
> me to move ahead with importing that part of the data? I'd certainly look
> for more mappers to discuss with if I decide to move on to more of Alberta.
>
> --Joshua
>
> On 2019-04-22 15:15, john whelan wrote:
>
> For building footprints there are two sources of open data that are
> correctly licensed.  One is Microsoft's building footprints and the other
> is the Stat Can released data.  The Stats Canada data is basically the
> municipal data released under the federal government's licence.
>
> I suggest you first check with James and ask him if your city's data is in
> the Stat Can data set.
>
> The next step having sorted out a source of open data that has an approved
> licence is to work out a process to include the data.
>
> There is a single import of the Stat Can buildings in progress.  However a
> Toronto mapper took exception to a million buildings being added mainly in
> the West of Canada and asked the DWG to remove them.
>
> A group of three mappers are looking at ways to "cleanse" the data using
> open source software.  Once they have arrived at an agreed acceptable
> solution then I assume the Canada wide building import will continue in
> some way.
>
> So you can hang on or you can submit your own import plan.  To do this the
> local mappers have to be in agreement.  In Ottawa this meant we met over
> coffee.
>
> Then you need to formally write up an import plan in the wiki.  Submit it
> to the import mailing list and answer any queries they may have.  In this
> case Nate will probably say it is already covered in the current Canada
> wide import plan so why introduce yet another plan.  It also has to be
> listed somewhere or other as an import.
>
> It also has to be discussed in this mailing group.
>
> The City of Ottawa was kind enough to adopt the municipal version of the
> federal government's open data licence.  It took about five years from
> start to finish to get them to be nice and adopt it.  It has been formally
> approved by the legal working group.  If you can get your city to adopt the
> same licence great.  In Ottawa it meant we could bring in bus stops etc.
>
> Any other licence should either be approved by the Legal Working Group or
> you can put your own interpretation on it.  If challenged at a later date
> your imported data could be removed so I don't recommend this route.
>
> In short if you have a couple of local mappers in agreement that they
> would like to import the data, and if it is available via Stat Can and they
> find the data quality acceptable then ask to be permitted to import it on
> this mailing list.  James maybe able to assist.  Only if this route is not
> available should you think about doing something else.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 3:42 PM Joshua Kenney, <kenney_45 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody!
>> Relatively new mapper here.  I've been working on mapping my home town,
>> and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months.
>>
>> I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets
>> available under an Open Data Licence:
>>
>> http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence
>> The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional
>> steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM?
>>
>> One of the datasets includes building footprints.  Would importing that
>> get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the
>> national data to compare the quality?
>>
>> --Joshua
>>
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