[Talk-ca] Revisiting exits with “names” in Ontario and Quebec

[Andrew Deng]

Ontario is like California when it comes to signing exit numbers; it's very inconsistent. Some freeways do not have exit numbers at all (Highway 409, Highway 427 although it's getting them very soon), and a lot of them did not have any until very recently like the Gardiner and DVP. This is why we refer to exits by their names.
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Andrew

 

    On Monday, May 10, 2021, 06:05:59 p.m. EDT, Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 It's not only a problem in 400-series highway, Toronto expressway and Quebec autoroute exits. I have also seen "names" on interchanges and right-in, right-outs on other Ontario highways like Highway 11 between Barrie and North Bay, and Highway 115 between Newcastle and Peterborough, as well as other freeway and expressway-grade roads elsewhere (e.g. part of Highbury Ave connecting with the 401 in London, the Red Hill Valley Parkway around Hamilton).
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:46 PM Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, those "names" are largely map clutter especially in urban areas and where multiple values are used. There is no problem with navigation instructions, and it's becoming clear "names" are mostly an attempt to make exit destinations visible at the expense of other information, especially at closer zoom levels. 
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:04 PM Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr> wrote:

Jherome,
Si je compares l'autoroute 417 vers Ottawa, j'observe les même conventions qu'au Québec pour numéroter les sorties en km à partir du début de l'autoroute (Frontière du Québec pour la 417).  L'ajout du nom sur la node de la sortie est de toute évidence pour le rendu, mais au détriment de tous les autres éléments. Cela rend difficile de repérer le no. de sortie et en milieu urbain ces noms de lieux encombrent la carte rendant illisible le reste.
Lorsque je donne des instructions à quelqu'un je donne toujours les instructions
1. le no. de sortie ( node highway motorway_junction )
2. ensuite suivre en direction de tel lieu ou route ( chemin highway motorway_link, destination ...  )

Et c'est ce que font les outils de navigation. Ils indiquent d'abord le no. de sortie ( node highway motorway_junction) et ensuite le nom de la destination sur bretelle de sortie, là où doivent apparaitre les noms ( chemin highway motorway_link ).

 
Pierre 
 

    Le lundi 10 mai 2021 14 h 55 min 48 s UTC−4, Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com> a écrit :  
 
 It may not be a tagging for the renderer issue, but it also has something to do with Ontarians saying “(road name) exit” instead of “exit (number)” as in Western Canada. Don't know how do Québécois refer to autoroute exits.

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